Re: Leroy Milburn Cox

warrenlead Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:02 pm

I just got an email from Roy's great niece, she is awaiting approval from Jeff and other family members to send me some more information about Roy from the family archives.

Cheers

Mudhen Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:49 pm

Hi Warren,
On your "Cox Model Engine" site, 1983, you mention Bill Selzer purchasing Cox. Bill was partners with this fellow, Doy Henley.
http://www.chapman.edu/amcelebration/gala/awardRecipients.asp

Scroll to the bottom.
Mud

warrenlead Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:29 am

Thanks Mud.

Do you have any photos of the Cox pop gun that you could post?

Regards
Warren

Mudhen Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:20 pm

Hi Warren,
I posted pictures of the pop gun, prototype Space Bug, pre-production Tee Dee .010, and an inverted Tee Dee .049.
I'll have to search for a head-on shot of Roy Cox. (probably H.I.A.A.)
Mud

warrenlead Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:40 am

Hi Mud

Those pictures are absolutely superb! Thank you very much for sharing. I dont think too many people would have seen a genuine Cox Little Bazooka pop gun before! Amazing stuff...

Regards
Warren

nitroairplane Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:42 am

Mudhen wrote:Hi Warren,
I posted pictures of the pop gun, prototype Space Bug, pre-production Tee Dee .010, and an inverted Tee Dee .049.
I'll have to search for a head-on shot of Roy Cox. (probably H.I.A.A.)
Mud

That .010 is jaw dropping for a tiny engine fan such as myself any pics of the pee wee parts or are those classified?

Mudhen Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:31 am

oops! The pictures I took/posted for Warren took several hours. (plus I had to dig the stuff out of storage.) In the middle of the work I just forgot to photograph the .010 parts. When I have free time I'll get on it.
Mud

Cz10 Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:23 pm

nitroairplane wrote:
warrenlead wrote:Thanks Mudhen

Do you know if there are any living descendants or relatives? As far as I am aware Roy's son Geoff died in 1961 but left behind a grandson "Jeff"

Regards
Warren

Maybe him
http://www.jeffcox.net/
Looks about the right age living in Santa rosa California so pretty close to santa ana.

I emailed him and he replied today.

"No relation as far as I know."

nitroairplane Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:37 pm

Cz10 wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:
warrenlead wrote:Thanks Mudhen

Do you know if there are any living descendants or relatives? As far as I am aware Roy's son Geoff died in 1961 but left behind a grandson "Jeff"

Regards
Warren

Maybe him
http://www.jeffcox.net/
Looks about the right age living in Santa rosa California so pretty close to santa ana.

I emailed him and he replied today.

"No relation as far as I know."

Well at leases it's a name crossed off the list.

warrenlead Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:24 am

Yer sorry I should have mentioned it... I got the same response a few weeks ago. It's not him.

I am now in contact with Leroy Cox's great niece (Lillian Cox's grand daughter) through ancestry.com. She is awaiting the OK from the "Jeff" we are after to talk to me and share some info. I will let you know how I go.

Cheers

nitroairplane Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:28 am

warrenlead wrote:Yer sorry I should have mentioned it... I got the same response a few weeks ago. It's not him.

I am now in contact with Leroy Cox's great niece (Lillian Cox's grand daughter) through ancestry.com. She is awaiting the OK from the "Jeff" we are after to talk to me and share some info. I will let you know how I go.

Cheers

You cox "detectives"
Sure are great and I is obvious you love what you do.
Carry on fellas:)

Mudhen Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:49 pm

Hi Warren,
I posted the reed valve engine parts "my gallery."
Mud

nitroairplane Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:03 pm

Mudhen wrote:Hi Warren,
I posted the reed valve engine parts "my gallery."
Mud

thanks mud.

nitroairplane Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:05 pm

Mudhen wrote:Hi Warren,
I posted the reed valve engine parts "my gallery."
Mud

was it more like a spacebug with a threaded shaft?

Mudhen Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:02 pm

I think Cox was striving for uniformity with their engines, particularly with the crankshaft, but was unsure of which way to go. This seems to have occurred between 1956 through 1958. I have two Space Hopper prototypes, both of which have the Space Bug crankshaft. However, one appears to have a stock crankcase, but with an aluminum extension. The other has an elongated, conical crankcase front. (Stretch a Babe Bee crankcase and you get the idea.) Conversely, I have a Space Bug that has been machined to accept the Babe Bee crankshaft. I was told that Cox made at least three reed-valve .010 prototypes. Although I have never seen the engine as a whole, it seems possible that one, or more, was made with the miniature Space Bug crankshaft, (as pictured.) Whereas the others may have been machined with a miniaturized Pee Wee crankshaft. But without seeing the engine's that’s just my speculation. Huh...

Mud

nitroairplane Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:18 pm

Ok I wonder who has seen one?
Maybe no one alive Sad

that is sad I would love to find one.

warrenlead Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:14 am

Just wondering if anyone has a good portrait picture of Leroy Cox that can be released to the public domain for use in my wikipedia article?

I would rather not use any of the ones that are already out there as none of them clearly show his face front on.

Maybe one of you gurus with all the original knowledge and documents may be able to help?

Cheers

shell shock Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:58 am

All i can say is, WOW. This is one hell of a thread. Thank you to Mudhen and Warren (along with all others) for this amazing information. As i collect things i like to know the roots of what it is i am using. This is one of the few things i can not find alot on. Though with the rate of this thread, that might change.

Thanks for all your hard work
Shell Shock