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A "Postage Stamp Relic" Rises Again! Surprise Delivery!!!
Kim Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:25 pm
From My Facebook Page:
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"Cold, dreary days make for a good time spent rescuing little Castor Slingers from their Cigar Box Prison.
So, we got some mercy / TLC being thrown at this little .049 that's been in the dark for some 54 years.
The engine has a "Postage Stamp" backplate named, I figure, for its rectangular shape. These backplates had no mounting holes...they held their engine in place by "keying" into slots molded into the fuselage sides of their plastic ready-to-fly model airplanes. When the fuselage screws were tightened, the engines were clamped in place.
You remember...those soul-crushing, Christmas Destroying, plastic bombs that, if launched at all, usually plummeted into mother earth, taking our dreams with them?
Adding to that devastation were the "Postage Stamp" engines, which would fight any kid who tried to re-purpose them in another plane.
Carl Goldberg Models to the rescue!!! This company sold a lot of model airplane accessories, and came up with an adapter that would allow the Postage Stamps to power the much more flyable balsa wood models.
By happy coincidence,, Goldberg ALSO marketed a long line of such balsa models that would just love the Postage Stamps! So many an orphaned engine found itself making control line laps on the front of a Goldberg plane.
I believe my Postage Stamp began life in the nose of a Cox P-51 Mustang that was flown by all of us at one time or another.
The Mustang was gradually pounded to death, and I ended up with its engine...but never used an adapter on it.
Now, it's back in the game, and will be appearing on the snout of the Q-Tee in its next video."
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"A Diamond in the Rough"
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"Cold, dreary days make for a good time spent rescuing little Castor Slingers from their Cigar Box Prison.
So, we got some mercy / TLC being thrown at this little .049 that's been in the dark for some 54 years.
The engine has a "Postage Stamp" backplate named, I figure, for its rectangular shape. These backplates had no mounting holes...they held their engine in place by "keying" into slots molded into the fuselage sides of their plastic ready-to-fly model airplanes. When the fuselage screws were tightened, the engines were clamped in place.
You remember...those soul-crushing, Christmas Destroying, plastic bombs that, if launched at all, usually plummeted into mother earth, taking our dreams with them?
Adding to that devastation were the "Postage Stamp" engines, which would fight any kid who tried to re-purpose them in another plane.
Carl Goldberg Models to the rescue!!! This company sold a lot of model airplane accessories, and came up with an adapter that would allow the Postage Stamps to power the much more flyable balsa wood models.
By happy coincidence,, Goldberg ALSO marketed a long line of such balsa models that would just love the Postage Stamps! So many an orphaned engine found itself making control line laps on the front of a Goldberg plane.
I believe my Postage Stamp began life in the nose of a Cox P-51 Mustang that was flown by all of us at one time or another.
The Mustang was gradually pounded to death, and I ended up with its engine...but never used an adapter on it.
Now, it's back in the game, and will be appearing on the snout of the Q-Tee in its next video."
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"A Diamond in the Rough"
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rsv1cox Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:08 pm
Living my dream Kim. Old stuff brought to life again.
A great tutorial for the uninitiated.
A great tutorial for the uninitiated.
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balogh Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:47 pm
Kim, I could not agree more with your post.
My favorite reedie is the red postage stamp backplate 049, especially with No1 cylinder, a real furious little rascal that morphs into a bomb with a Kamtechnik or Galbreath head.
My favorite reedie is the red postage stamp backplate 049, especially with No1 cylinder, a real furious little rascal that morphs into a bomb with a Kamtechnik or Galbreath head.
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Re: A "Postage Stamp Relic" Rises Again! Surprise Delivery!!!
Kim Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:53 pm
rsv1cox wrote:Living my dream Kim. Old stuff brought to life again.
A great tutorial for the uninitiated.
Thanks Bob!!!!
I try, with these Facebook posts, to make them understandable to anyone interested in them, along with jump-starting a memory or two in all us kindred souls.
This already happened in a post from Hollis Fenn:
"I bought one of those CG adapters after the Cox Corsair would no longer rubber band back together. I put it on a c sheet blasa combat wing type of plane I got by mail from America's Hobby Center in NYC. I made a fuel tank from one of Mom's medicine bottles and it was way to big. I was flying in the backyard trying to keep it between the clothes line and an oak. Finally dizziness prevailed and I parked it in the oak. I though my Dad was going to die laughing!"
Love this stuff!!!!
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Kim Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:58 pm
balogh wrote:Kim, I could not agree more with your post.
My favorite reedie is the red postage stamp backplate 049, especially with No1 cylinder, a real furious little rascal that morphs into a bomb with a Kamtechnik or Galbreath head.
YES!!! Kindred Souls We are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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rsv1cox Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:09 pm
I love your picture Andras, I know from your past posts of your love for these postage stamp engines and the Goldberg mount.
Six beautiful well tended engines and one on the plane. I even appreciate the evil Cox spring starters, the first thing to go on my Cox engines. On your's they seem to add a bit to the overall visual appeal.
But, I could never get used to them, index finger reaching back to pick up the end while attempting to back-spin the prop which ususally results in an offending dimple or scratch. I only finger flip or when desperate use a spinner and a half A starter. Perhaps the one thing that Wen Mac/Testors improves over the Cox engines is their "Roto-matic" starter. What a pleasure to use.
Another one of mine just to show the contrast between your beautifully rendered examples and an also-ran. The one pictured above obviously was made up from parts.
And Kim, I can identify with Hollis only I have parked mine in Pine, and more than one at that. Happy times.
Six beautiful well tended engines and one on the plane. I even appreciate the evil Cox spring starters, the first thing to go on my Cox engines. On your's they seem to add a bit to the overall visual appeal.
But, I could never get used to them, index finger reaching back to pick up the end while attempting to back-spin the prop which ususally results in an offending dimple or scratch. I only finger flip or when desperate use a spinner and a half A starter. Perhaps the one thing that Wen Mac/Testors improves over the Cox engines is their "Roto-matic" starter. What a pleasure to use.
Another one of mine just to show the contrast between your beautifully rendered examples and an also-ran. The one pictured above obviously was made up from parts.
And Kim, I can identify with Hollis only I have parked mine in Pine, and more than one at that. Happy times.
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balogh Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:52 am
Thanks Bob,
I love the spring starters, especially this non-friction old school version on my engines.
I guess the rotomatic starter on the Wen Mac and Testors engines was a sort of ratchet starter, that adds some permanent friction, like the snap starter on the later COX engines like the sure start? I have some reservation against those because of their small but existent power robbing feature and constant wear of the ratcheting parts.
I love the spring starters, especially this non-friction old school version on my engines.
I guess the rotomatic starter on the Wen Mac and Testors engines was a sort of ratchet starter, that adds some permanent friction, like the snap starter on the later COX engines like the sure start? I have some reservation against those because of their small but existent power robbing feature and constant wear of the ratcheting parts.
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Oldenginerod Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:59 am
The Testors Rotomatic have 2 pawls which disengage once running, so there isn't really any additional friction. Its biggest downfall is probably the additional weight. But then, if we're talking Pipe Bomb engine, they're pretty light in the first place.balogh wrote:Thanks Bob,
I love the spring starters, especially this non-friction old school version on my engines.
I guess the rotomatic starter on the Wen Mac and Testors engines was a sort of ratchet starter, that adds some permanent friction, like the snap starter on the later COX engines like the sure start? I have some reservation against those because of their small but existent power robbing feature and constant wear of the ratcheting parts.
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getback Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:17 am
Nice write up on the postage stamp Cox engine . I do have a few of them now never flew one on a plastic model but have repurposed before and they are really good runners . yea Goldberg new what he was doing when he made the adaptive mount so they could bee reused on his models too LOL Really cool that Jason had made and printed a few for the members here to try ( still wonder what happened to him ?? 
No one has heard from him or Bob Dickerson ! 
No one has heard from him or Bob Dickerson ! 
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rsv1cox Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:20 am
getback wrote:Nice write up on the postage stamp Cox engine . I do have a few of them now never flew one on a plastic model but have repurposed before and they are really good runners . yea Goldberg new what he was doing when he made the adaptive mount so they could bee reused on his models too LOL Really cool that Jason had made and printed a few for the members here to try ( still wonder what happened to him ??
I PM'ed Bob (dckrsn) at about the same time I PM'ed Rene. It's still in my outbox unread and unanswered.
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Re: A "Postage Stamp Relic" Rises Again! Surprise Delivery!!!
Kim Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:15 pm
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Christmas in November!!!!!
Checked the mail on the way home this morning to discover THIS!!!!
Long time friend and fellow Castor Slinger Fan, Mark Boesen, sent me a spray bar/needle valve assembly for my Postage Stamp Engine...AND...a whole 'nother complete postage stamp backplate!!!!!
Some lucky junk yard orphan is about to see daylight!!!!
The competition was fierce among the old Castor Slingers vying to power Mark's Postage Stamp Backplate!
And, the Winner of the "Which Engine Gets Mark's Vintage Postage Stamp Backplate Contest" is:
This well-worn, skinny-necked case, and what I THINK is a #2 cylinder (no stamped number, but single port).
So, the "Caster Slinger Stories We Could Tell Adventure" continues...
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Christmas in November!!!!!
Checked the mail on the way home this morning to discover THIS!!!!
Long time friend and fellow Castor Slinger Fan, Mark Boesen, sent me a spray bar/needle valve assembly for my Postage Stamp Engine...AND...a whole 'nother complete postage stamp backplate!!!!!
Some lucky junk yard orphan is about to see daylight!!!!
The competition was fierce among the old Castor Slingers vying to power Mark's Postage Stamp Backplate!
And, the Winner of the "Which Engine Gets Mark's Vintage Postage Stamp Backplate Contest" is:
This well-worn, skinny-necked case, and what I THINK is a #2 cylinder (no stamped number, but single port).
So, the "Caster Slinger Stories We Could Tell Adventure" continues...
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getback Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:13 am
for Mark coming through for you with the back plate and extra needle assy. Good pick for the runner up with the skinny nose i like those engines and seem to perform good all the time 
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Kim Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:17 am
getback wrote:
Hey Eric!
Yeah, this type of thing has happened several times over the years with my great friends here on the C.E.F., and it's ALWAYS greatly appreciated!
The .049 Cigar Box is gonna get a little more crowded as I search through the dusty back-shelves for "strays" that got wrapped up in strips of paper towels and tucked away in project boxes of years past.
This stuff is so much fun.
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