A Long Time Coming

Thanks, Mark!

I appreciate this thread to the point that it is bookmarked AND printed.

Things that make me go Hmmm? ??
Not that I am a prolific builder, I’m not. Most of my builds have been slab wing or built up profiles following the plans. Most of them flew more than once! Other than my Christmas gifted TD3.  I still have my original Goldberg Lil Wizard. Never quite understood what some of those fancy gauges and meters were for OR how to use them.  
I learned something today thanks to Marks DIY incidence meter post.

1- How to make a really cool handmade meter
2- How to use it, and WHY!

For the second thing I looked up the following instructions:

https://www.little-bellanca.com/manual_download/rob404v2_manual.pdf

Thanks Mark!

The never too old to learn something.
Marleysky

That would work for checking to see if the wing is twisted, wouldn't it?

Oldguy,
Yes, jigs help for wing twist.  Or at least they do for me.

Ken,
I do make good centerlines on my scratch builds and reference everything to those.  And if I cut a slot for the stab into the rear of the plane it’s not a problem getting the wing/stab aligned.  The three places that this is most useful for me are when the stab is glued on the top of the rear fuselage, I find that I sometimes have the stab saddle a couple of degrees off and need to ensure I sand it level with the wing.  As Oldguy says, this is good for ensuring there’s no wing twist.  I wear glasses with medium/heavy astigmatism correction, and usually sighting down the wing doesn’t help, as depending on the angle I hold the wing at, and the lighting in the room, the way my glasses make the trailing edges convex/concave vexes me greatly, especially a tapered wing.  But mostly where this helps is when I am drilling the holes for a beam mount engine.  If I just try and measure, I invariably get a little up or down thrust on the engine.  Just my Waterloo.  Using the wing jig and the angled piece on the prop, I ensure that as I drill my holes the engine stays at 0 degrees to the wing.  I don’t assume any bubble level is true.  I just pick which of my levels is going to be the master, in this case the one glued to the tube, and then match my other levels to that one.  The other level above I glued to a piece of plastic to keep it from rolling, and then sanded the base to ensure that it was true to the master level.  You can see that I took a Sharpie and made a line on one side so that both levels are always mounted in the same direction.  Do I get an Expert class plane with perfect alignment as a result?  No.  I get a plane that’s close enough to zero as makes no difference and that flies straight for me.  And that’s alright.  I’m far from a serious competitor.  Actually, I’ve never entered a contest.  I have fun with getting an idea and building it.  That’s what this jig is perfect for.  I’ve never expected to end up with a plane like the guys who are better than me, especially with the finish.  

Jim and Marleysky,
Glad to give Y’all ideas and information.  I went about 30 years without ever using a jig.  In the last couple of years I started using them.  I made my first one, then bought one at a swap meet.  But they were too big for most of my stuff so I made this one.  Like I said, they were mostly helpful with engine incidence and wing twist.  Not as important with R/C, but important now that I’ve pretty much gone exclusively to CL.

The Emperor Mark

Marleysky wrote:Things that make me go Hmmm? ??
Not that I am a prolific builder, I’m not. Most of my builds have been slab wing or built up profiles following the plans. Most of them flew more than once! Other than my Christmas gifted TD3.  I still have my original Goldberg Lil Wizard. Never quite understood what some of those fancy gauges and meters were for OR how to use them.  
I learned something today thanks to Marks DIY incidence meter post.

1- How to make a really cool handmade meter
2- How to use it, and WHY!

For the second thing I looked up the following instructions:

https://www.little-bellanca.com/manual_download/rob404v2_manual.pdf

Thanks Mark!

The never too old to learn something.
Marleysky

I was looking at the Roberts tool, and had a question on something i have been doing on all of my scratch built planes and i'm now wondering if i have been building them wrong. Question on profile C/L planes. I have been building them all with the stabilizer and wing cord line parallel with the datum line. Is this correct or not?

Mark, I know what you mean by the glasses. I never wore glasses in my life. I had a eye injury which required surgery 2 years ago and now glasses are a part of my life. During the surgery, other problems were discovered and I'm currently on several medications to slow these problems down. I can fully understand your issues.

Mark,

I'm curious...where does one source fairly accurate mini levels?

TIA

Never mind...found your answer over on SH under the same title.
Sacrificial cheap Dollar Store level for donor pieces.