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Post  rsv1cox Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:17 pm

Looks like the painting of the full scale has a rectangular center leading to openings for cylinder cooling.

Buy another bottle of batch salts and make one for display with a vacuum form set of cylinders backing it up. Or find an old Guillows model that already has one ready made.

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Excuse the hanger dust.

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Post  dirk gently Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:19 am

I'm afraid I can't justify the time investment of making a vacuum formed cowling, considering how many models I have to still put together before the start of my last real flying season. My plan was to create a bunch of empty airframes to have something to replace the ones that inevitably end up crashed with, but I haven't even had the time yet for maintenance of the models that did survive the last season.

I have nothing but respect and admiration for people who put stunning scale details on their models, but seeing as building time is scarce, crash rate is high and my airfield is getting closed, I made an executive decision - if I can't see something from 30 feet away, I'm not putting it on the model.
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Post  dirk gently Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:21 pm

Last weekend I didn't get as much done as I had hoped because of Valentine's Day and stuff. Anyway, here's the belated progress report. I think I stand a reasonable chance of completing the model in 4 weekends.

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Funny thing is, one of the reasons I picked the FIAT is the windshield - I usually make built-up canopies, which I don't particularly enjoy doing, so I thought just having a windshield, as opposed to a full-fledged canopy would bring the workload down to a minimum. Alas, the windshield is so tiny I utterly failed to build it up, and I'm faced with molding it. I already made a mold, but it seems I just created more tedious work for myself, rather than saving it.
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Post  rsv1cox Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:00 pm

Love the ID number on your Fiat.

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From the pages of Air Classics magazine.

Looks like a design that you would be interested in.

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Post  dirk gently Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:23 pm

OK, so the FIAT is finished, well, sort of, I still want to do a fake radial engine and a pilot at some point.
It actually took me 5 weekends to finish, but in the last three progress was slow due to house guests, family visits and rubbish weather preventing me from painting outside.

Regardless, it came out not too bad, I had fun building it, and the AUW is good at 237g (some 8oz). One thing I'm not happy about is I realised the windshield is slightly off-centre. Not so much that it would be very noticeable, but enough to annoy a Polish guy. Guess I only have myself to be annoyed at.

I made an improvised fuel tank out of a 35mm film case, an old credit card and a syringe. And lots of epoxy. We'll see how it turns out, but I was able to confirm it's airtight.

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Post  getback Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:48 am

Looks Nice Dirk, i think the windshield came out good .. What controls are you using i can't tell from the pics? Controls installed at 8oz.s Very Happy
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Post  akjgardner Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:10 am

dirk gently wrote:Last weekend I didn't get as much done as I had hoped because of Valentine's Day and stuff. Anyway, here's the belated progress report. I think I stand a reasonable chance of completing the model in 4 weekends.

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Funny thing is, one of the reasons I picked the FIAT is the windshield - I usually make built-up canopies, which I don't particularly enjoy doing, so I thought just having a windshield, as opposed to a full-fledged canopy would bring the workload down to a minimum. Alas, the windshield is so tiny I utterly failed to build it up, and I'm faced with molding it. I already made a mold, but it seems I just created more tedious work for myself, rather than saving it.
                         Hey That Looks Good ....So does The Airplane.... Very Happy Beers
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Post  dirk gently Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:26 pm

getback wrote:Looks Nice Dirk, i think the windshield came out good .. What controls are you using i can't tell from the pics? Controls installed at 8oz.s Very Happy
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Post  Dave P. Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:46 pm

I don't know if this right scale,1/12 about 4 1/2" diameter, but it's pretty cool and might fit the bill.  

Really nice build.  At 8 ounces it ought to fly nicely too.  Just keep the speed up, warbirds are notorious for snapping on short final.

http://www.wmbros.com/uploads/6/6/1/4/66148535/s346434502858190692_p91_i4_w2288.jpeg

http://www.wmbros.com/store/p91/GPW_Wasp_Dummy_Engine_Kit%2C_1_Each.html

Sorry, I tried to paste the image, but the tech required is above my pay grade.
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Post  dirk gently Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:20 am

Thanks.
The 1/12 scale would perhaps just about do it, but it's a 9-cylinder where mine is supposed to be 2x7-cylinder.
More importantly, for the price of the dummy engine + shipping I could buy about 3 actual (COX) engines.
So that will have to be a pass Smile
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Post  ian1954 Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:41 pm

Because the radial engine is only visible from the front on these - it may be better to scale a picture of one and paste it to the front of the cowling.
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Post  dirk gently Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:47 am

Hello Ian,

yes, that is exactly the plan.
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Post  getback Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:25 am

ian1954 wrote:Because the radial engine is only visible from the front on these - it may be better to scale a picture of one and paste it to the front of the cowling.
lol! lol! lol! You is right !!
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Post  balogh Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:29 am

dirk gently wrote:........
Funny thing is, one of the reasons I picked the FIAT is the windshield - I usually make built-up canopies, which I don't particularly enjoy doing, so I thought just having a windshield, as opposed to a full-fledged canopy would bring the workload down to a minimum. Alas, the windshield is so tiny I utterly failed to build it up, and I'm faced with molding it. I already made a mold, but it seems I just created more tedious work for myself, rather than saving it.

The same considerations drove me to omitting the intricate - although nice - windshield from the Lil'Roughneck..I simply continued covering the cabin area with Oracover when covering the fuselage itself...not nice, not authentic, but easy and lasting...

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Post  dirk gently Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:29 am

I have to say though, molding the windshield was far easier than I thought it would be, definitely resulted in a cleaner looking transparency, without the usual seams and occasional glue smears. Obviously, this comes at the cost of having to prepare a mold, so it's kind of a "six one way, half-a-dozen the other" situation.
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Post  dirk gently Sun May 10, 2020 1:36 am

Great weather yesterday:
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Post  Levent Suberk Sun May 10, 2020 2:03 am

Perfect flying Very Happy Thanks for video RC Plane Very Happy
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Post  getback Sun May 10, 2020 9:17 am

She flew Very Good !! You get alot of speed from the way you build just a sure start Small Cox Logo
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Post  rsv1cox Sun May 10, 2020 9:27 am

I watched it too. Continue to be amazed at how well DG fly's these little hot rods and keeps them in the air.
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Post  dirk gently Sun May 10, 2020 9:58 am

This one doesn't really fly like a fighter, I would call what it does "parading" in the sky. The aileron response is pretty lazy, I don't think I could barrel roll  it. All in all, it's a pretty relaxing experience.
It's kind of funny how each of those planes have roughly the same size, weight, engine, yet, they each have a unique personality


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Post  1/2A Nut Sun May 10, 2020 11:02 am

What prop was that Dirk, great flight thank you for sharing with us!

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Post  dirk gently Sun May 10, 2020 1:09 pm

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Post  GallopingGhostler Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:19 pm

That was a really exciting flight you did, @dirk gently, and with a classic aircraft not often modeled, but certainly with charm. Love the way you constructed it lightweight with stick and tissue type framing. The Cox .049 Sure Start pulls it with authority, well matched power to airframe. Thumbs Up

I've thought of taking that Fiat and making a control line profile Ringmaster variant modeled after it. That model has the right proportions to have a realistically looking Ringmaster with it's origin clearly seen as the Fiat G50.
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