wtb 1996 killer bee bottom end

John Goddard wrote:

RknRusty wrote:

nitroairplane wrote:What was the problem with what Bernie offered again?

That's kind of what I was wondering. I guess because Bernie's aren't Cox NOS. For a collector it might matter but for a flyer, Cox Int. is the superior choice.They should be indistinguishable unless a machinist investigated it by way of a hardness test.

And that would be a bit like a French Duck..

RknRusty wrote:

nitroairplane wrote:What was the problem with what Bernie offered again?

That's kind of what I was wondering. I guess because Bernie's aren't Cox NOS. For a collector it might matter but for a flyer, Cox Int. is the superior choice.They should be indistinguishable unless a machinist investigated it by way of a hardness test.

RknRusty wrote:

John Goddard wrote:

RknRusty wrote:

nitroairplane wrote:What was the problem with what Bernie offered again?

That's kind of what I was wondering. I guess because Bernie's aren't Cox NOS. For a collector it might matter but for a flyer, Cox Int. is the superior choice.They should be indistinguishable unless a machinist investigated it by way of a hardness test.

And that would be a bit like a French Duck..

A French Duck??? Translation to American vernacular please? Even Google can't help with that one.

Cox International wrote:

RknRusty wrote:

nitroairplane wrote:What was the problem with what Bernie offered again?

That's kind of what I was wondering. I guess because Bernie's aren't Cox NOS. For a collector it might matter but for a flyer, Cox Int. is the superior choice.They should be indistinguishable unless a machinist investigated it by way of a hardness test.

What unfortunately might happen is that OP may be offered a NOS; which may indeed be a "Cox International" one. Because they are indistinguishable, no one would know the difference.

Except for the handful we held back for engine production we have now sold out of the first batch of 1,000.

Because of some inconsistencies we have switched suppliers and are having them made in the USA. Again, they will be to Cox OEM drawings and will only differ in hardness and be less brittle to withstand diesel "knock". Pricing will likely go up a a couple of bucks but that is the price one pays for US production.

They should be in towards the latter part of June.
Bernie

RknRusty wrote:Damn, price rising. I should have gotten the two I need while the gettn' was good. I have one of the crooked ones, and for some reason can't let go of it whenever I hold it over the trash can. I received it as a gift though, so it's the thought that counts.

EXModelEngines wrote:As others have said, the current production crankshafts that I (and Bernie) currently have available are $9.95 and feature manufacturing to Pre-Estes OEM Cox specifications, with the only difference being a change in the heat treating process to accommodate the ability to use them with diesel as well as regular glow fuel. In addition, the current ones have a small hole on the backside of the crankshaft, which is cosmetic in nature and was done to facilitate the manufacturing process.

New ones are currently in production and should be ready in early/mid June. They will be almost identical to the ones currently being sold with the heat treat.

From a collectors standpoint, I understand why you may want one from the original Cox production run in the mid-1990's. Having said that, they are nearly impossible to find by themselves, and you would be better off to buy a new engine if available.

Matt

Admin wrote:You still after one? This is the first time I have seen one of these pre-Estes cases in the factory parts package on eBay. It even has the correct shaft! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cox-049-killer-bee-engine-block-new-3405-/270986523647?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f180e33ff

engine049 wrote:Bernie, I think he'd challenging the fact your killer bee crank will not be accepted by nffs because it is not OEM. Can you post the contrasting data? Depending on the spect 1 might challenge the nffs guidelines. Pics, weight etc?? Either way, He might be right Original is Original. Too bad they are not obtainable.