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Space Bug possibility
Today I met up with a neighbour who had me service his VW Amarok for him. The back of the vehicle was full of electric RC planes as he'd just been out for his regular Thursday morning fly. As we engaged in conversation he mentioned he had a couple of Cox engines, a Babe Bee and a Space Bug. Not sure if he's offering them to me, scouting for an unrealistically high price or just trying to work through the emotions of possibly parting with something which is of no practical use to him but holds a lot of sentimental value. He says he purchased the Space Bug new in the late 1950s or maybe 1960. On closer inspection I see it has the later style cylinder with larger thread glow head, so not an early version. He's adamant it's original apart from a new later style head. Looks in good condition although rather grubby. It still has the box it arrived in. Just a plain cardboard box with "L. M. Cox Manufacturing Co., Inc. Santa Ana" label plus the original customs label. He mail ordered it from the USA & has his name and Canadian address on the label.
Now, is it worth pursuing? What would be a reasonable offer, bearing in mind we may be able to barter a deal with his car repair bill? I told him the Babe Bee was a dime a dozen & I had as many as I'd ever need, but would love the Space Bug, but my ebay rule is never go over $35 for any engine unless it's exceptional. Did I offend him? Who knows but if I did I may have lost a customer as well as the Space Bug.
Rod.
Now, is it worth pursuing? What would be a reasonable offer, bearing in mind we may be able to barter a deal with his car repair bill? I told him the Babe Bee was a dime a dozen & I had as many as I'd ever need, but would love the Space Bug, but my ebay rule is never go over $35 for any engine unless it's exceptional. Did I offend him? Who knows but if I did I may have lost a customer as well as the Space Bug.
Rod.
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Re: Space Bug possibility
I see it all the time. Owner has a prized collection of engines, thinking his children or grandchildren will appreciate them. Because of US inheritance taxes, survivors can't afford the properties. His house, possessions and vehicles are auctioned. The survivors don't see the value in the engines, so they are included in the lot someone gets for a song. Then sells them on E-Bay to make money.
I can't say whether your neighbor was offended or not. He opened the door to discussion by showing the item. You'd think a normal person, if he was truly selling the engine and wanted more, would have simply chuckled and told you too low and his intentions.
Who knows? If your neighbor has the skin of an onion, then may be he should have never brought the subject up. Beats me. He must prize it because he kept the box it came in.
I can't say whether your neighbor was offended or not. He opened the door to discussion by showing the item. You'd think a normal person, if he was truly selling the engine and wanted more, would have simply chuckled and told you too low and his intentions.
Who knows? If your neighbor has the skin of an onion, then may be he should have never brought the subject up. Beats me. He must prize it because he kept the box it came in.
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Re: Space Bug possibility
I agree with George , if he just wanted to show it thats one thing if wants to sell then whats the price? i am sure he was fishing for more $$ ^^ Your ebay rule should not have applied to a hand to hand purchase though. Just my
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Re: Space Bug possibility
remember, after '56 Space Bugs used the new head until '58 when they stopped production. If it was nice it would be worth 35-50 all day long, plus what would it cost to ship to Oz?
Re: Space Bug possibility
Well, it's no longer a possibility. I now have a Space Bug, plus an extra early Babe Bee. The owner returned today and said "didn't you want this?" as he handed me the box. His research showed that my $40 offer wasn't so unreasonable after all. After all, it needs a darn good clean up and has apparently done a heap of work.
Anyway, rather than exchange cash I need to remove a stuck wheel from his 4x4, rotate the tyres and we're even. Good deal me thinks.
Anyway, rather than exchange cash I need to remove a stuck wheel from his 4x4, rotate the tyres and we're even. Good deal me thinks.
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Re: Space Bug possibility
Nothing like trading labor for love , Glad that has worked out for you have the Space Bug ! with a BB to Boot !!
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Re: Space Bug possibility
Well the Space Bug cleaned up really well (as did the Babe Bee) after a good stew in anti-freeze and a scrub. Both feel excellent. Bearings and compressions are great. I haven't dismantled either and probably won't if they took like they'll run. Reed valves seem to work in both- How do I know? I place a drop of oil in the intake and turn the engine over. If it sucks the oil in, the reed isn't stuck. The Space Bug may need a little more internal cleaning as it appears to blow back. Not sure how the twin reeds work, but clearly they're not seating. Probably just needs a good flush with fuel. If I can get it to fire up it should clean itself out.
I still can't post picture, but hopefully that should be solved with an immanent purchase of a new iMac coming up. In the meantime, I may send a few pictures to another member whose email address I have and get them to post them for me. Got to take them first.
Rod.
I still can't post picture, but hopefully that should be solved with an immanent purchase of a new iMac coming up. In the meantime, I may send a few pictures to another member whose email address I have and get them to post them for me. Got to take them first.
Rod.
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