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Post  crankbndr Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:04 pm

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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:06 pm

Gasket.
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Post  dckrsn Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:12 pm

Hmmm. Non Killer Bee cylinder?

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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:14 pm

Yeah it is .051 colours and probably a .049.
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Post  GermanBeez Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:14 pm

It's not mine Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post  WingingIt74 Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:15 pm

Did a killer bee have a golden bee case?
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Post  crankbndr Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:17 pm

I cant afford a real one so I cobbled a fake together out of spare parts.
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:24 pm

cool.
It is a pretty good copy but to be honest if you did not own all those parts it would have been cheaper to buy one.
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Post  mr_cox Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:24 pm

It sure looks nice!
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:27 pm

How does it run?
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Post  crankbndr Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:28 pm

Thats about 50$ there.
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:28 pm

You can pick up a used Killer bee for that.
If you are looking I will tell you if I see one anywhere.
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:30 pm

Here ya go and nib.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Box-Cox-Killer-Bee-049-Control-Line-Free-Flight-Model-Airplane-Engine-/150733690513?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23186d9691#ht_1884wt_1189
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Post  crankbndr Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:31 pm

Run it this weekend and post the vid.
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:31 pm

cool can't wait to see it!
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Post  crankbndr Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:32 pm

nitroairplane wrote:Here ya go and nib.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Box-Cox-Killer-Bee-049-Control-Line-Free-Flight-Model-Airplane-Engine-/150733690513?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23186d9691#ht_1884wt_1189

Thats could be a fake also.
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:35 pm

crankbndr wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:Here ya go and nib.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Box-Cox-Killer-Bee-049-Control-Line-Free-Flight-Model-Airplane-Engine-/150733690513?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23186d9691#ht_1884wt_1189

Thats could be a fake also.

Could but I highly doubt it.
I have bought from Bob before and he is an honest guy.
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Post  crankbndr Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:42 pm

Need to look in the back, check the crank and piston.
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:46 pm

crankbndr wrote:Need to look in the back, check the crank and piston.

Not always.
Not every "real" killer bee had those parts.
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Post  Admin Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:52 pm

It looks real to me. He could have just swapped out the needle valve to make it look like a earlier one but I doubt it. I have 3 NIB and 1 (taken apart) "early Estes" Killer Bees. The early Estes (1996-about 2000) Killer Bees are usually seen with yellow-gold cases, original cylinder, regular Babe Bee crankshaft, regular short needle, unlightened piston, original zero drag plate, thrust washer, original black backplate, original Mylar reed, original slip on reed retainer, original TD head and original spinner and screw.

Only the Killer Bee .051s had the red backplate.

The original Killer Bees (1992-1996) have a lightened piston, dual bypass with 1 boost per bypass SPI slit cylinder, lightened crankshaft, yellow-gold case, zero drag driveplate, thrust washer, black (red for .051) large open intake backplate, light weight low vibration needle valve, slip on reed retainer, clear Mylar reed, TD glow head and a spinner.

The later Estes ones (about 2000 to about 2002) had the same features as the early Estes one (1996-about 2000) only the case was unanodized and the reed was switched to a steel reed.

The latest Estes Killer Bees (post 2002) seem to have the cylinder switched with a non-tapered no SPI cylinder.

Maybe Mud could help on the exact dates...


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Post  Mark Boesen Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:58 pm

nitroairplane wrote:
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nitroairplane wrote:Here ya go and nib.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Box-Cox-Killer-Bee-049-Control-Line-Free-Flight-Model-Airplane-Engine-/150733690513?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23186d9691#ht_1884wt_1189

Thats could be a fake also.

Could but I highly doubt it.
I have bought from Bob before and he is an honest guy.

Ditto!
Bob is a personal friend of mine and one of the most honest and knowledgeable sellers on ebay.
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Post  crankbndr Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:03 pm

I did not mean he is not honest, just Cox changed them after 2002.
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:04 pm

crankbndr wrote:I did not mean he is not honest, just Cox changed them after 2002.

yes but after 2002 they also changed the boxes.
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Post  dckrsn Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:56 pm

I put this together right around the time Bernie started selling the Killer Bee backplates. Wasn't realy thinking "clone" at the time. Eerily similar to Crankbndr's....or not.

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Post  cjuliano Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:16 pm

nice prop
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