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Post  Godsey3.0 Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:48 pm

How do these metal tanks work? If they are on a stunt CL plane and I do inverted will the fuel supply get cut off? I will be getting a combat plane and am trying to decide on how I am going to supply fuel. I will be using an engine with a killer bee backplate
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Post  microflitedude Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:50 pm

Oops.


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Post  nitroairplane Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:58 pm

They are really meant for CL planes and I am told do not work well for rc as in CL the fuel all goes to the outside to that is where the pickup is.
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Post  Godsey3.0 Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:59 pm

I am not worried about spilling, just the fuel flow continuing to the engine during some kind of stunt.
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Post  nitroairplane Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:00 pm

I do not think it will flow well.
Get a sullivan 1oz tank kit!
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Post  microflitedude Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:02 pm

Godsey3.0 wrote:I am not worried about spilling, just the fuel flow continuing to the engine during some kind of stunt.

Sorry, I read your post wrong. Like Indra said, it is designed for CL; so unless it is damaged or you mount it wrong it will be fine. Make sure it is clean.
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Post  microflitedude Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:03 pm

nitroairplane wrote:I do not think it will flow well.
Get a sullivan 1oz tank kit!

The metal tanks worked for me, but the Sullivan tank worked better. Very Happy Bending those tubes though... ug.
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Post  Godsey3.0 Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:04 pm

That would be a long flight. HHHmmmm..... It would be a good way to get used to the plane.
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Post  microflitedude Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:04 pm

Here you go -

http://coxengines.ca/product.php?productid=71
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Post  Godsey3.0 Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:11 pm

How long would you say a standard 5cc tank would run?
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Post  microflitedude Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:14 pm

Godsey3.0 wrote:How long would you say a standard 5cc tank would run?

Depends. I have had anywhere from 30 seconds to 1:30.
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Post  Godsey3.0 Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:15 pm

Multiply that by 6 and that is how long that tank would last. Wow
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Post  microflitedude Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:17 pm

Godsey3.0 wrote:Multiply that by 6 and that is how long that tank would last. Wow

Not sure what you mean. What's your application? I have never heard of a 5cc tank lasting 9 (I think I got that right) minutes. Maybe if you throttled it all the way down and ran it lean...
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Post  Godsey3.0 Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:22 pm

I was talking about the 1oz tank you posted the link to. It is 30cc. 6 times larger than the standard tank.
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Post  microflitedude Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:27 pm

Godsey3.0 wrote:I was talking about the 1oz tank you posted the link to. It is 30cc. 6 times larger than the standard tank.

Oh, this was the post - "How long would you say a standard 5cc tank would run?"

The Sullivan 1oz clunk tank lasts around 10 minutes on my Killer Bee. Which screams.
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Post  Godsey3.0 Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:28 pm

I do not think I could hold onto a combat CL plane for 10 minutes. I will just fill it up half full.
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Post  microflitedude Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:37 pm

Godsey3.0 wrote:I do not think I could hold onto a combat CL plane for 10 minutes. I will just fill it up half full.

Few could. Very Happy Just go with whatever you are comfortable with.
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Post  Ivanhoe Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:20 pm

For control line use, this is the design of tank you need..Metal Fuel Tanks Cl_tan10

(I hope Bernie will forgive me for using his picture!)

This is known as a "Wedge" tank for obvious reasons, the feed pipe (On top in this picture) goes toward the outside of the circle, the side opposite the leadouts. The vents are designed so that no matter what position the model is in, upright, inverted, or whatever, the fuel will not run out. Centrifugal force pushes the fuel to the feed pipe as the model flies. In my experience of control line (which is considerable) this is the ONLY type of tank to use in any model that aspires to be aerobatic, do NOT use a clunk tank designed for R/C use, it will never give you consistent feed when subjected to the forces acting on a control line model.

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Post  Godsey3.0 Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:01 pm

Does the feed pipe travel to the back of the tank or stop in the front?
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Post  andrew Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:54 pm

It goes to the back.
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Post  Mark Boesen Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:26 pm

They are Uniflow, so no, they will not spill while inverted. It will be a little harder to draw fuel with that backplate, but it should work.[/quote]

FYI, the Perfect tank is not a 'Uniflow' tank. A unifo tank has a second air intake. The idea is like a bubbler, same amout of fuel runs out at a contant rate. ( see crappy drawing) This is what most use for C/L stunt as it give a lot better run.

I would not use a wedge for R/C, but for C/L it would be ok. You might look at what Rustys done with balloon tanks.

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Post  Ivanhoe Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:26 pm

Godsey3.0 wrote:How do these metal tanks work? If they are on a stunt CL plane and I do inverted will the fuel supply get cut off? I will be getting a combat plane and am trying to decide on how I am going to supply fuel. I will be using an engine with a killer bee backplate
Here is the tank

There seems to be some confusion among members as to whether we are talking about fuel tanks for control line or radio control models. As far as I read Godsey's origional question, it is for CONTROL LINE use, no mention of R/C that I can see! Flying

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Post  Cox International Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:21 am

Ivanhoe wrote:For control line use, this is the design of tank you need..Metal Fuel Tanks Cl_tan10

(I hope Bernie will forgive me for using his picture!)

This is known as a "Wedge" tank for obvious reasons, the feed pipe (On top in this picture) goes toward the outside of the circle, the side opposite the leadouts. The vents are designed so that no matter what position the model is in, upright, inverted, or whatever, the fuel will not run out. Centrifugal force pushes the fuel to the feed pipe as the model flies. In my experience of control line (which is considerable) this is the ONLY type of tank to use in any model that aspires to be aerobatic, do NOT use a clunk tank designed for R/C use, it will never give you consistent feed when subjected to the forces acting on a control line model.

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Post  Ivanhoe Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:17 am

Cox International wrote:
Ivanhoe wrote:For control line use, this is the design of tank you need..Metal Fuel Tanks Cl_tan10

(I hope Bernie will forgive me for using his picture!)

This is known as a "Wedge" tank for obvious reasons, the feed pipe (On top in this picture) goes toward the outside of the circle, the side opposite the leadouts. The vents are designed so that no matter what position the model is in, upright, inverted, or whatever, the fuel will not run out. Centrifugal force pushes the fuel to the feed pipe as the model flies. In my experience of control line (which is considerable) this is the ONLY type of tank to use in any model that aspires to be aerobatic, do NOT use a clunk tank designed for R/C use, it will never give you consistent feed when subjected to the forces acting on a control line model.

Wilf

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Thanks Bernie

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Post  dankar04 Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:25 pm

Brodak sells the old line of Perfect wedges and also Brodak uniflow tanks. Work quite well. Biplane
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