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Post  iamplanecrazy2 Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:40 pm

I spotted this engine on eBay but sadly it was after the auction had already ended so I didn't even get the chance to bid. DAMMIT!  DAMMIT! 

The engine has a very unusual crankcase, almost looks like they were contemplating
an opposed twin design. The high selling price is what caught my eye.
It sold for $76 so at least a couple of the bidders knew it was something special.
I contacted the seller, thomasjconsulting, and he told me that the winning bidder
said "...the crankcase was called a Baric? and that it actually never made it to full
production, just a couple were made and were to expensive to make." Jim said he
would send me the buyers email address so I can contact him for more information.
Jim (thomasjconsulting) gave me permission to post the photos from his auction here.
Here they are and if you have a crankcase like the one on this engine and want to sell
it, I'd sure like to buy it!

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Post  Admin Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:48 pm

I think Jason won that auction.  Paranoid  We'll have to see from him.

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Post  iamplanecrazy2 Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:04 pm

Opps! I looked for a thread on it before posting but didn't see one.
Sorry for the duplicated topic.

Did get the information I was seeking though, thanks Jacob.
The engine is in Tim Dannels' & Dan Sitter's Cox Model Engine Handbook.
ECJ #159, page 50

I have the book, had a Homer moment and missed it! Shocked
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Post  Jason_WI Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:24 pm

I bought that engine. It is a beric crankcase. The bottom lug is for the starter spring to sit around. Works pretty good for that. Not sure this ever went into full production. I have never seen one before.
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Post  iamplanecrazy2 Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:12 am

What a great addition to your collection.
Wish I had seen it in time to bid, then again, maybe it is financially beneficial for both of us that I didn't.  lol! 
The following is quoted from the Cox Model Engine Handbook:

    "The idea of using a die cast beric crankcase was
developed from 1975 through the late 1970's.
    Beric is a high zinc content metal with aluminum
as the secondary major element. In addition a "lug"
was cast into the bottom of this crankcase. Assembling
the starter spring on the Cox engines, had always been
a production assembly problem. In the process of
wrapping the tail of the starter spring around the
cylinder it was easy to scratch the cylinder's black oxide
coating. Installing the tail of the starter spring around
the lug on the bottom of the crankcase eleminated this
problem. In the late 1970's, after several years of
experimentation, the decision was made to develop a die
cast aluminum crankcase. The result was the ECJ # 96
R/C Bee .049 engine. Several variations of the beric
crankcase engines were developed as follows."

A photo is shown in the book that looks just like the
engine you purchased Jason except that it does not
have the spinner on it and there is a black plastic
knob on the needle valve.
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