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Aluminium carb body question
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Aluminium carb body question
Hi all and a happy new year!
I already have two Tee Dee's with broken carb body's. I'm thinking about building my own aluminium carb body...
I already saw some pictures from homemade alu carb body's. My only question I have:
Does the aluminium carb body also have that ledge like in the picture like the plastic one, or how was it make?
bnitram
I already have two Tee Dee's with broken carb body's. I'm thinking about building my own aluminium carb body...
I already saw some pictures from homemade alu carb body's. My only question I have:
Does the aluminium carb body also have that ledge like in the picture like the plastic one, or how was it make?
bnitram
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
No ledge. The aluminum body is "free" to rotate and must be fastened well with the collar. You can slip a head gasket or two in to make things move easier as you assemble. I received two of my TD's that way.
I have found that the added space in the intake area can cause difficulty clearing flooding. (I was also using an obscenely large venturi bore at that time.) Timing is not affected by slight misalignment as the case cutout matching the crank cutout control timing.
Phil
I have found that the added space in the intake area can cause difficulty clearing flooding. (I was also using an obscenely large venturi bore at that time.) Timing is not affected by slight misalignment as the case cutout matching the crank cutout control timing.
Phil
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
Thanks for answering,
That will make it a lot easier to build.
Have i understood you correctly that it gave some problems with the bigger space or was it just because you had another venturi?
bnitram
That will make it a lot easier to build.
Have i understood you correctly that it gave some problems with the bigger space or was it just because you had another venturi?
bnitram
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
I think it is was mostly the over sized venturi causing it to flood very easily. I had measured the venturis I had at the time, they are much, much larger than the recommended largest size. I cannot quote the size right now, but there is lots of space (over .010) around a 1/8 inch drill bit.
It seemed more difficult to clear flooding, even with the stock size venturi on it. With the stock size venturi we are talking about a handful of flips with the fuel off and glow on to clear, then priming and starting. I never ran a stock venturi on a plastic body for a true comparison on the same engine though.
With the bored out venturi I could get reasonable operation on the plastic body but not the aluminum body. With a stock sized venturi operation is quite easy on the aluminum body, but I don't have a plastic body to compare using the stock size venturi. I am running these engines on bladder pressure.
Phil
It seemed more difficult to clear flooding, even with the stock size venturi on it. With the stock size venturi we are talking about a handful of flips with the fuel off and glow on to clear, then priming and starting. I never ran a stock venturi on a plastic body for a true comparison on the same engine though.
With the bored out venturi I could get reasonable operation on the plastic body but not the aluminum body. With a stock sized venturi operation is quite easy on the aluminum body, but I don't have a plastic body to compare using the stock size venturi. I am running these engines on bladder pressure.
Phil
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
Ok,
thanks! I will try it out.
bnitram
thanks! I will try it out.
bnitram
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
I can confirm the aluminum bodies have no flat spot in them to locate and have to be manually clocked correctly. However, the feeling of knowing you'll never over tighten the venturi is worth it. Plus in my opinion it makes the engine look much better. And it'll last forever. With a CNC I would say it would be very possible to replicate the original cox part exactly but not many of us have access to such a machine or the knowledge to run one. In terms of making your own though, the ones currently produced and being sold on eBay are pretty affordable. Often times cheaper than the plastic part. I personally would save time and effort and buy one. And it comes anodized and pretty right out of the package.
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
Thanks too. Yes you are right. Worktime and so bear no relationship to buy,but I want to design my own RC throttlet carburetor and because i'm a german, i want a metric thread and that request a self made one. It is easy for me...
bnitram
PS:
I also have a lathe and a CNC-milling machine. So it is no Problem.
bnitram
PS:
I also have a lathe and a CNC-milling machine. So it is no Problem.
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
Oh well then more power to you! Good luck on your endeavor!
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
Thank you.
You will hearing from me, when it is finish
bnitram
You will hearing from me, when it is finish
bnitram
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
Phil mentioned adding a head gasket or two. Keep in mind, the aluminum units usually come with a teflon washer for the large end, but I like the copper head gasket idea better. And if I recall correctly, also a rubber o-ring for the collet end.
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
Oh yes... You are right... I will look how i will make it...
I think i will make it in 1 or two weeks and then I will report here how it was and work..
bnitram
I think i will make it in 1 or two weeks and then I will report here how it was and work..
bnitram
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Re: Aluminium carb body question
RknRusty wrote:Phil mentioned adding a head gasket or two. Keep in mind, the aluminum units usually come with a teflon washer for the large end, but I like the copper head gasket idea better. And if I recall correctly, also a rubber o-ring for the collet end.
Rusty
Yes, they do come with the o-ring and teflon washer. The o-ring tends to bind if assembled without lubrication.
The head gasket can help prevent binding as well, and take up space so everything fits better if necessary.
Phil
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