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Typical balsa density
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Typical balsa density
I was a it suspicious when I saw the results of weight measurements of the models I'm building, so I checked the density of balsa available from my local supplier. It came out as 0.26g/cm^3 (~ 0.15oz/cubic inch), more or less twice what I would expect.
I then checked density of balsa in a Guillow's kit that I bought, and it was also 0.26g/cm^3.
My modelling books all state that typical density of balsa that is used for models should be about 0.10g/cm^3. What density balsa are you using?
I then checked density of balsa in a Guillow's kit that I bought, and it was also 0.26g/cm^3.
My modelling books all state that typical density of balsa that is used for models should be about 0.10g/cm^3. What density balsa are you using?
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Re: Typical balsa density
Hi Dirk
I think you've just stumbled on something the serious model builders have known for ever,
that is if building an important criteria is balsa selection.
Personally it's about this point that I zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
fall asleep safe in the knowledge that my ARTF's don't suffer from this
Oh Oh I'm probably gonna be run outta town with those pitch forks
Again
I think you've just stumbled on something the serious model builders have known for ever,
that is if building an important criteria is balsa selection.
Personally it's about this point that I zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
fall asleep safe in the knowledge that my ARTF's don't suffer from this
Oh Oh I'm probably gonna be run outta town with those pitch forks
Again
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Re: Typical balsa density
As far as weight measurments,, all depends on the moisture content and whatever company's procedure is for kiln drying.
As far as density,,all depends in the area in which it grew. A dryer area, and the wood cells will grow more slowly (more closely packed together). It has a tougher time recieving water obviously in the dryer areas of growth.
As far as density,,all depends in the area in which it grew. A dryer area, and the wood cells will grow more slowly (more closely packed together). It has a tougher time recieving water obviously in the dryer areas of growth.
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Re: Typical balsa density
I'm preparing to scratch out a new plane with spare balsa from the LHS that I've had stacked on my table for a year. This is a high humidity area and my shop is drafty(an understatement). Should I bring it into the air-conditioned house for a few days before I start cutting parts? Do I understand correctly that it's stronger when dryer?
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Re: Typical balsa density
RknRusty wrote:I'm preparing to scratch out a new plane with spare balsa from the LHS that I've had stacked on my table for a year. This is a high humidity area and my shop is drafty(an understatement). Should I bring it into the air-conditioned house for a few days before I start cutting parts? Do I understand correctly that it's stronger when dryer?
You would think it would be stronger when moist. Kinda like when you try to snap off a branch from a dead tree as opposed to a green tree. Although I am not sure if it makes it stronger or weaker just more flexible.
The bigger concern when working with damp wood is when it dries it tends to warp. I would bring it inside for a few days and see what happens.
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Re: Typical balsa density
Makes good sense, thanks. I'll lay a couple of books on the big pieces too so hopefully they dry without changing shape.
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Re: Typical balsa density
One thing that you can do to benefit your building is to purchase an inexpensive scale that weighs in grams and ounces. You would truly be amazed at the differences in weight between similar size sheets of balsa. In control line construction, we all know how weight can build up and certainly impact the flying characteristics. Keeping your heavier wood outboard results in less tip weight. Utilizing heavier wood when needed is a great benefit. When you can balance the model without any additional ballast and still make your target weight is quite an achievement. I'm not stating to over emphasize on the weight, just know what your dealing with and choose wisely. Ken
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Re: Typical balsa density
OK, so what balsa density you guys use? For example, what density would you select for solid balsa wing, like in the Honker?
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Re: Typical balsa density
John Goddard wrote:....that is if building an important criteria is balsa selection.
Personally it's about this point that I zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
fall asleep safe in the knowledge that my ARTF's don't suffer from this
Oh, they do suffer from it. There just isn't anything you can do about it!! (in lieu of a 'crashing plane' emoticon)
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