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clear laminating film
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clear laminating film
I'm covering foam with clear covering for strength and fuel proofing. The film has to be light and needs adequate strength. I use reinforced fiberglass tape in areas that require it and I use 3" wide strips doubled and tripled over those areas prior to covering the entire wing. Doing some searching on the net, many r/c / park flyers are being covered with this laminating film. One particular name is Doculam. It comes in many thickness's. Has anyone used this film? I see it being used on foam and many built up fuse projects. It looks somewhat milky in appearance until it becomes heated then turn crystal clear. Has anyone used this product? is there also a go to supplier. Ken
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Re: clear laminating film
Several weeks ago there was thread on it in either RCU or RCG. The thread looked to be pretty in depth.
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Re: clear laminating film
Ken Cook wrote: I see it being used on foam and many built up fuse projects. It looks somewhat milky in appearance until it becomes heated then turn crystal clear. Has anyone used this product? is there also a go to supplier. Ken
I've used it. It's very tough, less prone to sagging like MoneyKote in the heat, lighter than MoneyKote and it's cheap. The downside is that it takes a bit more heat and is more difficult to easily work around corners.
Doculam is a trade name, but the laminating films are classed as polyester films. It comes in a gloss finish and a matt finish --- the matt is more expensive and I've never used it. It can be painted on the gloss side, but surface prep is a must; I don't know if the matt finish would hold paint better or not, but I would think so. It can also be sprayed on the adhesive side, but very lightly and with a dry coat, otherwise, it interferes with the adhesive. Because it is more heat resistant, it is less likely to burn thru with a heat gun like some of the model plastics. As you noted, it turns crystal clear when heated and shrunk; by crystal clear, I mean like good glass. It doesn't seem to shrink quite as much as the covering films, but with a little care in applying it, you can get a nice drumtight finish.
I like it. It's so cheap that if you're not satisfied with the covering, just strip it off and do over. For planes with short expected lifespans (combat), it can't be beat.
It can be purchased in different widths, lengths and thickness, with the adhesive wound in or out (it's not tacky, but dry like monokote) and on cores of different diameters. You want to buy the 1.5mil thickness.
The best place I've found to buy is Oregon Laminations Company. They have a flat rate shipping of $5.95 which is execellent since these rolls are heavy. You can also buy a single roll at a time(many of the suppliers will sell rolls only in pairs).
They have two good buys for modelers:
1" core, 1.5mil, 25" x 250', gloss, adhesive wound IN for $15.20 plus $5.95 HIS.
2.25" core, 1.5mil, 18" x 500', gloss, adhesive wound OUT for 20.75 plus $5.95 HIS.
I tend to think the 18" x 500' is a better buy since I seldom have the need for a 25" wide piece. You want to apply it with the long side running as it comes off the roll.
Over time, when it comes off the roll, the edges will tend to curl a bit -- you just have to hold it down until it's stuck or cut the curl off.
andrew
Re: clear laminating film
Thanks for the responses. I'm indeed using it for combat wings from 1/2A to 500 sq. size. Currently, I'm using the SLC from Corehouse, but I just want to try something a bit different. Cost is a factor. I lost two birds this weekend, one repairable the other is highly doubtful. You just really find yourself tearing off so much covering that it would be simpler just to do over. THis is the problem with prebuilt F2D planes. If packing tape can't repair it your forced to recover. Ken
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Re: clear laminating film
Hi Ken,
See you made to this site. I sold the Fora .06 as I have a Cyclon .051. I see Fora now has an .049 with angled exhaust. Present time my interest in not with UC as bitten by RC mico helis. I can fly almost anyware/ anytime/ no road trip to a field. Then again I have table stacked with many RTF combat ships. 1/2A/ F2D/ AMA fast/ AMA slow/ Speed limit etc. New Cyclon .051/ new Wasp .061/ new Norvell .061/ half dozen selected real nice TD .049/.051's etc. Problem here in Tucson is Stunt is only game in town. Last time I flew combat planes I was spending more time just to get a launch. As soon as plane was up guy would split. I asked around at contests if any interest and found a guy but he became Mr. no-show. + fiels is 40 mile round trip cross town traffic. = $8.00 fuel burnrd.
Later,Dan
See you made to this site. I sold the Fora .06 as I have a Cyclon .051. I see Fora now has an .049 with angled exhaust. Present time my interest in not with UC as bitten by RC mico helis. I can fly almost anyware/ anytime/ no road trip to a field. Then again I have table stacked with many RTF combat ships. 1/2A/ F2D/ AMA fast/ AMA slow/ Speed limit etc. New Cyclon .051/ new Wasp .061/ new Norvell .061/ half dozen selected real nice TD .049/.051's etc. Problem here in Tucson is Stunt is only game in town. Last time I flew combat planes I was spending more time just to get a launch. As soon as plane was up guy would split. I asked around at contests if any interest and found a guy but he became Mr. no-show. + fiels is 40 mile round trip cross town traffic. = $8.00 fuel burnrd.
Later,Dan
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Re: clear laminating film
Hi Dan, I know you had mentioned your good friend had passed that Cyclon on to you. If your interested in ever letting it go, please don't hesitate to ask me. I also just had some aluminum mounts made for Fox .36's MK engines if your interested. I just finished up some fast foamies myself. I just passed on to a friend 3 brand new piston liners for Cyclon .051's. I had one piston liner for .049 I kept for myself. We had the east coast combat contest this past weekend. My son placed 3rd in speed limit 1/2 A was washed out due to rain. I was looking forward to 1/2 A. I ran out of SLC covering and I decided to try some of the other types of films. Ken
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Re: clear laminating film
Hi Ken,
I haven't tried anything else but SLC as I still have 20 feet of it but several planes it will be gone. I like it I recovered a Checz plane and it looks great. Got some metalic striping to do on it but like it big time. Is Phil still suppling combat stuff ? Last time he had flood problems ??
I haven't tried anything else but SLC as I still have 20 feet of it but several planes it will be gone. I like it I recovered a Checz plane and it looks great. Got some metalic striping to do on it but like it big time. Is Phil still suppling combat stuff ? Last time he had flood problems ??
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Re: clear laminating film
Dan, Phil recovered from the flood but it took months as the water was 5' deep in his basement. Luckily, his laser cutter is on a pulley system and he had that at ceiling height. I flew with Phil this past weekend and he was doing real well. Phil and my son had a awesome match together. Phil is back at making RTF foamies as well. This was put on hold for a few months. Last years contest was when the flood took place. The rains came at that contest and the flooding was bad. Later that evening is when the house started to flood. I really should've picked up more covering when I was there. Ken
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