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Post  mitchg95 Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:45 am

hey, i mentioned this airplane in a post a while back "help with identifying these models" well I found out that the bigger one with the yellow wing is a scaled up version of a "lil esquire"
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well she came with a 1960's with a os max-s 35 motor without muffler, i replaced that motor with my 1988 os 25fp for 3 main reasons
First, it has greater compression
Second, it has a muffler which i will deffinetly need because im going to be flying the plane at the soccer feilds by my house
Third, the 25fp looks cooler that the max-s 35
i weighed the plane last night with out battery or fuel and she came in at 2lbs 14.5oz. I think this is a do-able weight for a 25 size motor Very Happy
im going to maiden her today, all servos are installed, throws and linkages are perfect and its almost 80 degrees farenheit without wind today Very Happy maiden flight report to come later
and thanks again guys for helping me identify this model aircraft Very Happy


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Post  nitroairplane Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:50 am

14.5 oz is .049 range lol.
0°F in late April?
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Post  mitchg95 Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:51 am

nitroairplane wrote:14.5 oz is .049 range lol.
0°F in late April?

oops, auw is just over 2 pounds 14.5 ounces without battery or 2 ounces of fuel
and 80*f in april lol
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Post  Kim Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:14 am

Yo ! Great little plane ! But you might want to make sure that area around your fuel tank is totally sealed up, or she'll come down with a case of "Oil Cancer" up in the front end !
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Post  nitroairplane Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:19 am

mitchg95 wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:14.5 oz is .049 range lol.
0°F in late April?

oops, auw is just over 2 pounds 14.5 ounces without battery or 2 ounces of fuel
and 80*f in april lol
Ok then.
BTW who is your next avatar gonna be?
Peter Griffin? lol
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Post  mitchg95 Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:37 am

Kim wrote:Yo ! Great little plane ! But you might want to make sure that area around your fuel tank is totally sealed up, or she'll come down with a case of "Oil Cancer" up in the front end !

the parts were the balsa is showing? i covered that with tape as a temporary fix lol!
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Post  mitchg95 Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:39 am

nitroairplane wrote:
mitchg95 wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:14.5 oz is .049 range lol.
0°F in late April?

oops, auw is just over 2 pounds 14.5 ounces without battery or 2 ounces of fuel
and 80*f in april lol
Ok then.
BTW who is your next avatar gonna be?
Peter Griffin? lol

hey now there's an idea... lol, cant wait to fly this plane today. I have a feeling that it will end well, i hope she does not end in a ball of flames
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Post  fit90 Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:20 pm

Flames like what Bender Bending Rodriquez belches?
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Post  Cribbs74 Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:36 pm

Mitch,

I have a larger Tatone muffler that came with an older .10 OS and it's way too big for the .10

If you can measure the bolt spacing and a rough opening size I can check to see if it will work for you. It's a shot in the dark but, who knows.

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Post  mitchg95 Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:50 pm

fit90 wrote:Flames like what Bender Bending Rodriquez belches?

jeez i hope not lolz
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Post  mitchg95 Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:50 pm

cribbs74 wrote:Mitch,

I have a larger Tatone muffler that came with an older .10 OS and it's way too big for the .10

If you can measure the bolt spacing and a rough opening size I can check to see if it will work for you. It's a shot in the dark but, who knows.

Ron

ok ill get a rough measure real quick Very Happy
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Post  mitchg95 Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:57 pm

cribbs74 wrote:Mitch,

I have a larger Tatone muffler that came with an older .10 OS and it's way too big for the .10

If you can measure the bolt spacing and a rough opening size I can check to see if it will work for you. It's a shot in the dark but, who knows.

Ron

wait do you mean to measure the spacing on the max-s 35 or the 25fp?
the 25 spacing for the muffler mount screws is,37-38/16ths
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Post  mitchg95 Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:56 pm

well i just got done maidening the squire... 2 things to say, first the motor has more than enough power for the plans and second, boy oh boy is she tail heavy. I broke 2 props and one motor mount, now to fix her and try again tomorrow Very Happy
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Post  fredvon4 Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:46 pm

Center of gravity before flight is not hard to measure and adjust. This and will yield great success if you always balance and plan for CoG to be between 33%~40% of the wing chord depending on how long your tail moment is.....long tail more aft, short tail more forward

A “Square” airframe is 25 inches wing width and 25 inches long fuselage

Assuming constant 5 inch wing width (chord) 33% is around 1 5/8th inches back from the leading edge
The plane should balance CoG somewhere between 1 9/16” and 1 11/16”
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Post  mitchg95 Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:09 pm

fredvon4 wrote:Center of gravity before flight is not hard to measure and adjust. This and will yield great success if you always balance and plan for CoG to be between 33%~40% of the wing chord depending on how long your tail moment is.....long tail more aft, short tail more forward

A “Square” airframe is 25 inches wing width and 25 inches long fuselage

Assuming constant 5 inch wing width (chord) 33% is around 1 5/8th inches back from the leading edge
The plane should balance CoG somewhere between 1 9/16” and 1 11/16”

cool that is very helpful Thanks ill check that tomorrow and maybe try her again on saturday Smile


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