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aero shrike
hi, i have been wanting to build a aero shrike commander for .049 power for a while now and i found the plans for one
http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/ShrikeTiled.pdf
what do you guys think? is this a good airplane to build and fly, is there any one on this site that has one and can tell me how it will fly if one of the .049 medallians died and the other kept running
thanks
http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/ShrikeTiled.pdf
what do you guys think? is this a good airplane to build and fly, is there any one on this site that has one and can tell me how it will fly if one of the .049 medallians died and the other kept running
thanks
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Re: aero shrike
Hey Mitch,
Haven't got any info on the model but I remember a kit advertised. Ace R/C? maybe of House of Balsa?
Anyway I was certainly interested in building one too. Still am really but I've got enough stuff I haven't flown already!?
Haven't got any info on the model but I remember a kit advertised. Ace R/C? maybe of House of Balsa?
Anyway I was certainly interested in building one too. Still am really but I've got enough stuff I haven't flown already!?
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Re: aero shrike
FIXR7 wrote:Hey Mitch,
Haven't got any info on the model but I remember a kit advertised. Ace R/C? maybe of House of Balsa?
Anyway I was certainly interested in building one too. Still am really but I've got enough stuff I haven't flown already!?
same here, i might still build this model. I need to find the time, luckily i have next week off so maybe the build will start next week
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Re: aero shrike
Found!...it was an Ace kit.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1503895
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1503895
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FIXR7 wrote:Found!...it was an Ace kit.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1503895
sweet thank you for finding that bit of info, wish there were some videos of one of these flying
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Re: aero shrike
Never built one, but would like to some day. Seems like the Aero Commander would be a good choice for it's shoulder wing layout.
As far as an engine-out situation, I've always wondered if it would be worth the trouble to rig spring-loaded trip wires (like some combat models) to allow the pilot to instantly kill the running engine, and turn the plane into a manageable glider.
As far as an engine-out situation, I've always wondered if it would be worth the trouble to rig spring-loaded trip wires (like some combat models) to allow the pilot to instantly kill the running engine, and turn the plane into a manageable glider.
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Re: aero shrike
Kim wrote:Never built one, but would like to some day. Seems like the Aero Commander would be a good choice for it's shoulder wing layout.
As far as an engine-out situation, I've always wondered if it would be worth the trouble to rig spring-loaded trip wires (like some combat models) to allow the pilot to instantly kill the running engine, and turn the plane into a manageable glider.
i was thinking rc throttles for both motors and if one decided to cut out, just pull the throttles back to idle
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Re: aero shrike
Just a couple months ago I read a review on a new shrike kit that looked like it would be great for a pair of .049s. I believe it was a House of Balsa kit. The review was either in Fly R/C or Model Airplane News. I think Rich Uravitch did the review and gave it a positive review. It was supposed to be pretty fast on two 300 size electric brushed can Graupner motors but other than that it was a good flyer.
Good luck with this project if you decide to take it on and don't forget to keep the peanut gallery up on it with plenty of pics.
Bob
Good luck with this project if you decide to take it on and don't forget to keep the peanut gallery up on it with plenty of pics.
Bob
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Re: aero shrike
fit90 wrote:Just a couple months ago I read a review on a new shrike kit that looked like it would be great for a pair of .049s. I believe it was a House of Balsa kit. The review was either in Fly R/C or Model Airplane News. I think Rich Uravitch did the review and gave it a positive review. It was supposed to be pretty fast on two 300 size electric brushed can Graupner motors but other than that it was a good flyer.
Good luck with this project if you decide to take it on and don't forget to keep the peanut gallery up on it with plenty of pics.
Bob
oh yeah, i saw that review in my model airplane news mag. Looks cool, i want to build but would love to have something that is already to go as i tend to start and never finish model airplane kits
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Re: aero shrike
ok i printed out the plans for the aero commander shrike and i noticed that it says to use .049/.051-.07 for power. My question is, should i order 2 AP .09 wasps from nitro planes for the power it demands because i am at over 1 mile high in altitude and gas motors loose power as they reach higher altitudes.
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Re: aero shrike
I would order 2 big mig .061 RCs to power it.mitchg95 wrote:ok i printed out the plans for the aero commander shrike and i noticed that it says to use .049/.051-.07 for power. My question is, should i order 2 AP .09 wasps from nitro planes for the power it demands because i am at over 1 mile high in altitude and gas motors loose power as they reach higher altitudes.
Build light and you will have plenty of power with those.
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nitroairplane wrote:I would order 2 big mig .061 RCs to power it.mitchg95 wrote:ok i printed out the plans for the aero commander shrike and i noticed that it says to use .049/.051-.07 for power. My question is, should i order 2 AP .09 wasps from nitro planes for the power it demands because i am at over 1 mile high in altitude and gas motors loose power as they reach higher altitudes.
Build light and you will have plenty of power with those.
ok, how much are they though?
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Re: aero shrike
Not too cheap!
http://www.nvengines.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=1&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=24&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=65
Come to the chatbox and we can talk of it more.
http://www.nvengines.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=1&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=24&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=65
Come to the chatbox and we can talk of it more.
Re: aero shrike
nitroairplane wrote:Not too cheap!
http://www.nvengines.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=1&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=24&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=65
Come to the chatbox and we can talk of it more.
ok im in, for a few minutes
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mitchg95 wrote:My question is, should i order 2 AP .09 wasps from nitro planes for the power it demands because i am at over 1 mile high in altitude and gas motors loose power as they reach higher altitudes.
Don't waste your $$$$ on the AP .09 . For throttling, the NORVEL .074 is a good choice. The NORVEL .061 Big Mig would also work well, but as Indra pointed out, they're not cheap. The Wasp weighs almost twice that of a .061 Big Mig. You may be able to pick up NORVELs on eBay, new, for less than NV Engines.
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Well he said the weight should be about 20oz and a single norvel 074 should pull that straight up, never mind 2andrew wrote:mitchg95 wrote:My question is, should i order 2 AP .09 wasps from nitro planes for the power it demands because i am at over 1 mile high in altitude and gas motors loose power as they reach higher altitudes.
Don't waste your $$$$ on the AP .09 . For throttling, the NORVEL .074 is a good choice. The NORVEL .061 Big Mig would also work well, but as Indra pointed out, they're not cheap. The Wasp weighs almost twice that of a .061 Big Mig. You may be able to pick up NORVELs on eBay, new, for less than NV Engines.
Re: aero shrike
nitroairplane wrote:Well he said the weight should be about 20oz and a single norvel 074 should pull that straight up, never mind 2andrew wrote:mitchg95 wrote:My question is, should i order 2 AP .09 wasps from nitro planes for the power it demands because i am at over 1 mile high in altitude and gas motors loose power as they reach higher altitudes.
Don't waste your $$$$ on the AP .09 . For throttling, the NORVEL .074 is a good choice. The NORVEL .061 Big Mig would also work well, but as Indra pointed out, they're not cheap. The Wasp weighs almost twice that of a .061 Big Mig. You may be able to pick up NORVELs on eBay, new, for less than NV Engines.
um, i meant 40oz not 20oz
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Re: aero shrike
nitroairplane wrote:Oh ok then.
yeah, 50" wing span
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I have an original Aero Shrike Commander kit NIB. If you have anu questions on the build let me know.
Also there is some info in the modeling section about it. I posted a question a while back.
Also there is some info in the modeling section about it. I posted a question a while back.
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cribbs74 wrote:I have an original Aero Shrike Commander kit NIB. If you have anu questions on the build let me know.
Also there is some info in the modeling section about it. I posted a question a while back.
sure i will let ya know if a have any questions on the build, im still in the works of trimming the plans and taping it all together
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Re: aero shrike
what do you guys think of this engine?
http://www.nitroplanes.com/72p-ap061a.html
is this engine crummy, or will it work?
http://www.nitroplanes.com/72p-ap061a.html
is this engine crummy, or will it work?
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mitchg95 wrote:what do you guys think of this engine?
http://www.nitroplanes.com/72p-ap061a.html
is this engine crummy, or will it work?
I think it's out of stock.
I don't know if it's still in production --- you'll need to check around.
It's a Chinese knock-off of the NORVEL. QC is real spotty and some are OK; some are t**ds. They do not have a very good reputation for longevity and require a complete clean-up before running. The head shim is worthless and should be replaced with a decent COX or NORVEL copper gasket.
Do a Google search on AP Wasp .061 for some reviews.
Re: aero shrike
andrew wrote:mitchg95 wrote:what do you guys think of this engine?
http://www.nitroplanes.com/72p-ap061a.html
is this engine crummy, or will it work?
I think it's out of stock.
I don't know if it's still in production --- you'll need to check around.
It's a Chinese knock-off of the NORVEL. QC is real spotty and some are OK; some are t**ds. They do not have a very good reputation for longevity and require a complete clean-up before running. The head shim is worthless and should be replaced with a decent COX or NORVEL copper gasket.
Do a Google search on AP Wasp .061 for some reviews.
yeah, i looked for reviews on this motor after i posted the question if it will work. I dont think im gonna work with that engine, even though its half the price the quality is not as good
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Re: aero shrike
well, i just remembered how much i hate scratch building from planes. i think im gonna ride my bike to the lhs and get a cheap $12 guillows kit and build that. Ill try to post a build thread on that if i end up doing that
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