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Cox Engine of The Month
SureStart engines with cracked backplate housings
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SureStart engines with cracked backplate housings
I purchased "three" new in the package SureStart engines.
I removed one from the packaging to look it over. Looked nice but seemed tight?
I also purchased "two" of those throttles to replace the straight choke tube.
After I removed the choke tube I noticed where the needle valve is press in being cracked?
I checked the other two and they also have the same problem.
Is this going to effect the performance (use) of the engine? Is it a problem that has to be fixed?
Or does it really matter if this is cracked? Will it cause a problem down the road while I use the engine?
Will these cracks then effect how well the choke tube with the throttle will work?
Thanks,
I removed one from the packaging to look it over. Looked nice but seemed tight?
I also purchased "two" of those throttles to replace the straight choke tube.
After I removed the choke tube I noticed where the needle valve is press in being cracked?
I checked the other two and they also have the same problem.
Is this going to effect the performance (use) of the engine? Is it a problem that has to be fixed?
Or does it really matter if this is cracked? Will it cause a problem down the road while I use the engine?
Will these cracks then effect how well the choke tube with the throttle will work?
Thanks,
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Re: SureStart engines with cracked backplate housings
Because of the small amount of false air entering the venturi through the cracks, instead of the throttle tube, it may affect the throttle efficiency (even when the throttle is fully closed, the engine can inhale some air, and may idle instead of stopping..but conventional COX heads are not hot enough to keep a good idle without flame-out, anyway, unless you use hot glow plug in a plug adaptor, and/or retain some heat with an exhaust manifold) .
Other than the risk of getting the spray bar rotated if the NV is over tightened, there is no more risk I could see...this is an inherent problem of almost all SureStarts with the grey horseshoe backplate. I also have a few with the same cracks. In another post someone mentioned, the material of the grey backplate is not the same flexible delrin as was used for earlier production backplates, but a more brittle material, therefore the venturi snapped when the spraybar was pushed in in the factory.
I am not sure if there is a reliable glue that would stay in the crack and keep the edges together, especially in a nitro environment. The good thing is that the throttle tube has a lip that slips over the venturi intake, and lends a bit of circular/tangential strength to it that may at least prevent the crack to advance further.
Other than the risk of getting the spray bar rotated if the NV is over tightened, there is no more risk I could see...this is an inherent problem of almost all SureStarts with the grey horseshoe backplate. I also have a few with the same cracks. In another post someone mentioned, the material of the grey backplate is not the same flexible delrin as was used for earlier production backplates, but a more brittle material, therefore the venturi snapped when the spraybar was pushed in in the factory.
I am not sure if there is a reliable glue that would stay in the crack and keep the edges together, especially in a nitro environment. The good thing is that the throttle tube has a lip that slips over the venturi intake, and lends a bit of circular/tangential strength to it that may at least prevent the crack to advance further.
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Re: SureStart engines with cracked backplate housings
I have seen that problem on gray plates.
Therefore a while ago I made this solution.
You can even make it long and also place an air valve if it is of your interest.
The aluminum alloy tube is the permanent and definitive solution to this problem that comes from the source.
and if you want you can place an additional air valve
Therefore a while ago I made this solution.
You can even make it long and also place an air valve if it is of your interest.
The aluminum alloy tube is the permanent and definitive solution to this problem that comes from the source.
and if you want you can place an additional air valve
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Re: SureStart engines with cracked backplate housings
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