OH THE HUMANITY!!

crankbndr wrote:I can't believe this has a bid

http://www.ebay.com/itm/332156645019?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Why, it's an ultra-rare Menasco 'Pirate' inline 4! Gonna have a short run on that tank though...

I was not familiar with that engine so looked it up. Turns out it powered early Ryans that became PT trainers and others, cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9YFDZRsj_M

I don't remember if Harrison Ford had the Menasco inline four or the Menasco five cylinder radial on his Ryan PT two seater when he did a lawn dart impression in the Santa Monica golf course in 2015......

Radial 5cyl PT-22

Actually a Kinner radial on the PT-22...Fleet Biplanes had them also.

Nothing in the front 3 holes. Might have a shaft extension and just the 4th cylinder active, or nothing at all.

Interesting... sorta.

Phil

Well the tank backplate ain't broke. That's gotta be worth something??

Honestly, if I was to go to the trouble, I would at least align the crankcases & use matching cylinders and heads.

Yep, it'd sure be cool if it could work.

Kim wrote:Actually a Kinner radial on the PT-22...Fleet Biplanes had them also.

That's right...I had forgotten about the Kinner...
I saw a Kinner radial running once at an airshow and it may have been in a Ryan. I love the sound of any radial engine running especially a warbird....

I find both of them sort of interesting... The black "inline" is clearly meant for decoration, and it does resemble the inline 4's like Gypsy Major or the PT-19 engine mentioned before. If I didn't know anything about Cox engines, this is something I might have in my office. For a non-functional jumble of parts it is kinda cool IMO.

The other one then... Looks like a Tee Dee tank mount and a .051 bottom end plus 3 mufflers... I might be tempted to pay $21 for it if the shipping would be reasonable (that's another $25 for me). Most likely though the mufflers are missing the steel parts As a "unit" I don't find it attractive but it is almost worth the price in parts. Again IMO.

That 4 cylinder one looks cool to me just as a curio cabinet display piece

I may replicate something similar some cold winter day from all the Bee Parts in my junk cigar box

Art comes in many different forms... My wife and I had a holiday in Nice, France this Easter, and visited the museum of modern art. Interesting building and architecture, but I did not really "get" most of the "art" there.

This piece did cause the "oh the HUMANITY" reaction:




The title did make me chuckle, as I had had a very good Creme Brulee the night before, much better than "Dynamite and Brulee"



Here is an unidentified French car (guessing Renault), in a similar form:



Plus a couple of other pieces:







I sort of "got" this and found it amusing:

My long held opinion is " If I can do it, it's not art..."
I thought the French were more sophisticated than having a burned out car hull displayed as high art !!
I can drive around the I-285 "Super Circle" and see 3 or 4 of those everyday.
The common folk here call the burned wrecks "Carbeque ".
Of course, the more educated hoi poloy refer to the burned cars as " Auto Flambe" ....

Well, that museum was definitely a weird experience. But it was good to get indoors for a while, we both burn easily in the sunshine. A lot of those works were from the late '50s, I guess there was a lot of experimenting going on. Weird stuff indeed.

Here's an example of the more traditional stuff:



Mostly we just walked around the old town, and of course the "Promenade des Anglais" by the Mediterranean.

66 Malibu wrote:My long held opinion is " If I can do it, it's not art..."
I thought the French were more sophisticated than having a burned out car hull displayed as high art !!
I can drive around the I-285 "Super Circle" and see 3 or 4 of those everyday.
The common folk here call the burned wrecks "Carbeque ".
Of course, the more educated hoi poloy refer to the burned cars as " Auto Flambe" ....

I know this is in very poor taste. But, I am sure we have lots of carbeque in this area, now. If our wild fires keep moving west we will also get lots of auto flambé.

I see this modern art, but personally I don't really care for it. I consider art to be something that one must put skill and imagination to work, something that really requires talent. One would understand a child showing their art, that being so young and inexperienced can appreciate nurturing from a parent or teacher, who one day may become a skilled artist. For such giving praise and encouragement is worth it. But modern art by adult? I digress.

Now the statue of David, that is a work of art. If someone took that beat up car and restored it to its former glory would be a work of art.

GallopingGhostler wrote:
If someone took that beat up car and restored it to its former glory would be a work of art.

I know just the right guy but he's in the middle of an MG Midget restoration right now

KariFS wrote:I know just the right guy but he's in the middle of an MG Midget restoration right now

The cruched red car is a Renault Dauphine. The cylinder comes from a Panhard & Levassor engine. It is post war. The model could be Dyna, Dyna Z, PL 17 or PL 24. I got several of these cylinders. Am I rich now??

OVERLORD wrote:The cylinder comes from a Panhard & Levassor engine. It is post war. The model could be Dyna, Dyna Z, PL 17 or PL 24. I got several of these cylinders. Am I rich now??

Well, if you have some pink paint handy, you may well be rich

Iremember the exhaust manifold you made for the Traction Avant, that, my friend, truly is a piece of art!

crankbndr wrote:I can't believe this has a bid
http://www.ebay.com/itm/332156645019

Finally went for $117.51 shipping included. I'm in the wrong business.

Wow I missed that price on that. Unbelievable.
Here was one that was well done that went high!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Nice-RC-Tech-Cox-098-034-V-034-Twin-Nitro-Control-Line-Model-Airplane-Engine-/371894732813?hash=item5696a7480d%3Ag%3AtPUAAOSwWxNYy00d&nma=true&si=hztxSUvhOmg5E9A725sEYVMGJQc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

crankbndr wrote:Here was one that was well done that went high!

ebay.com Item 371894732813 RC Tech Cox 098 V Twin Nitro Engine

$717.40 USD (658.49 EUR) including shipping, wow! Since it does not fire simultaneously leads to less than efficient crankcase volumetric efficiency for fuel air mixture delivery. It's a reworked Sure Start of all things. A little machining, sand blast the machined crankcase with clean letter stamping, we are definitely in the wrong business.