FOR SALE: BRAND NEW, ORIGINALLY BOXED VECO .19 ENGINE

http://www.mecoa.com/kb/aero/controlline.htm

I invite you to scroll down to the Veco .19 and check the alignment of the cylinder head cooling fins running paralell to the crankshaft.

Ed's engine shows them running perpendicular to the crankshaft.

The only way this would be possible is if the engine wasn't assembled properly either by Veco or someone who knew nothing about what they were doing. If it were intend for car useage it would be indicated on the orginal box shown.

While I no longer to wish buy this engine I'd like to help Ed solve the problem.

[quote="SuperDave"]Mark:

Can you name a "two stroker" that DOESN'T have baffled piston top?

I just saw this post and somebody beat me to the most obvious example, but I'd like to add...How about almost every late model two stroke engine currently on the market? Check any O.S. made in the last twenty years for a piston baffle.

The second photo is a RaCar made in the early 70's, I believe Hollywood, CA

Merry Christmas

Oh yeah i just checked my Toki .05 and it has none as well

Interesting that Ed's picture of the cylinder head shows a whte object placed in the grove for the piston baffle. Why?

And the mystery continies...........................................

Inspector Cleuseau

SuperDave wrote:Interesting tha Ed's picture of the cylinder head shows a whte object placed in the grove for the piston baffle. Why?

And the mystery continies...........................................

That looks to be a the effect that the flash on shiny objects.

Indra:

I'm thinking not. It does not appear to be what you state. Look VERY closely then get back to us.

Inspector Cleuseau aka: SD

SuperDave wrote:http://www.mecoa.com/kb/aero/controlline.htm

I invite you to scroll down to the Veco .19 and check the alignment of the cylinder head cooling fins running paralell to the crankshaft.

Ed's engine shows them running perpendicular to the crankshaft.

The only way this would be possible is if the engine wasn't assembled properly either by Veco or someone who knew nothing about what they were doing. If it were intend for car useage it would be indicated on the orginal box shown.

While I no longer to wish buy this engine I'd like to help Ed solve the problem.

The only way the engine could be "Not assembled properly" would be to have the hole for the gudgeon pin ("Wristpin") bored through the piston at 90 deg to it's normal position, and that the head casting mould somehow had it's bottom section rotated 90 deg to the top half! Can you imagine a situation where either or both of these could occur, either during production, or somehow be done later by a previous owner? I certainly can't!
Oh, and the "white object" is an effect of the flash, if you look closely (and I mean blow it up BIG) each bolthole has a white reflection in it too.

SuperDave wrote:Indra:

I'm thinking not. It does not appear to be what you state. Look VERY closely then get back to us.

Inspector Cleuseau aka: SD

Is this you? http://coxengineforum.forumakers.com/u164

The Inspector is out celelebrating Christmas eve. Try again later.

""The Pink Panther"

Re: Veco 19

I betcha if the piston were rotated 180 degrees it would fit into the cylinder head with the cooling fins paralell with the crankshaft?

Any takers?

Inspector Cleuseau (aka: SD)

Solved,,good work Kim!. Such a small head for a car motor,,but hey,,back in the day that's what was available. Would have never thought (and admittedly didn't think) it was a car head.

Also note that it has a Perry Carb. All of mine are earlier versions with either the Veco carb or the Veco venturi. The Veco .19 was a highly regarded car engine, especially if reworked, until the Schnuerle K&B 3.5cc ABC appeared, which blew the doors off the Veco in stock form. From there on, other companies improved and the old Veco .19 got left in the dust. I still have an old car with a reworked Veco .19, may it R.I.P.
BTW, years ago I ALMOST bought one of those sideways fin models for AC use from a LHS until I noticed that it was the car version.

George

With this new information I'll accept the fact that the cylinder head on Ed's engine IS installed correctly. Had I known this was a specialty engine the issue would not have arisen. It was not advertised as such so I believed it to be a standard VECO 19 with a rotary value. The orgininal box shown has no indication either.

I apologize to Ed and CECF for generating what has become a lengthy discussion. Thanks to those did the definitive research that brought this mystery to a satifactory conclusion. Ed now knows that he has a specialty engine with a Perry carburetor most likely indended for a car and if the engine is to be sold that it should be advertised as such.

I see no deception on Ed's part because he has little knowledge of model engines. I have apologized twice in one day here and this will weigh heavilly upon me for quite some time. I believe everything that has occured was of honorable intent and I am grateful that no one was harmed or slandered.

Not so SuperDave

To All,

Many thanks for all your help to solve this mistery... Many thanks to Kim who finally find out that this engine was installed correctly.

To Dave, thanks for all your mails, i learned a lot from you!!

Apart from all this..... the engine is still for sale

Regards,

Ed

SuperDave wrote:With this new information I'll accept the fact that the cylinder head on Ed's engine IS installed correctly. Had I known this was a specialty engine the issue would not have arisen. It was not advertised as such so I believed it to be a standard VECO 19 with a rotary value. The orgininal box shown has no indication either.

I apologize to Ed and CECF for generating what has become a lengthy discussion. Thanks to those did the definitive research that brought this mystery to a satifactory conclusion. Ed now knows that he has a specialty engine with a Perry carburetor most likely indended for a car and if the engine is to be sold that it should be advertised as such.

I see no deception on Ed's part because he has little knowledge of model engines. I have apologized twice in one day here and this will weigh heavilly upon me for quite some time. I believe everything that has occured was of honorable intent and I am grateful that no one was harmed or slandered.

Not so SuperDave

Dave this is good.
You generated discussion and without discussion no forum would be fun and there were no flames or mindless insults and swearing trust me I have seen that on other forums!

Just for interest, my Enya with crosswise head was used by me in aircraft for a number of years, never noticed any difference in it from the norm.

Wilf

Like this!

Indra:

Thank you for your kind words. Feeling pretty humble this morning.

Please read this sent to Ed this morning:

Ed:

Hope you read and will accept my apology that is posted on the forum.

It is now certain that your Veco is intend for a purpose other than aircraft, most likely a model car. I hope that you understand why the confusion occurred. The specialized nature of the engine only increases it's value to a buyer.

May I suggest to you that you advertise on a forum dedicated RC model cars where you are more likely to find a buyer?

I harbor no resentment against you and I hope that you will bear no grudge toward me. We both learned something.

Enjoy your Christmas day.

Dave

Every one should feel good this morning even if you do not "believe" it is a day to celebrate and be happy.

You do all realise that we are on this forum on CHRISTMAS DAY! How sad are we??