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Post  ian1954 Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:39 pm

I hate throwing anything away if it can be repaired, restored or used in some other fashion. I have read alot of posts advocating the use of JBWeld and I think it is a very fine expedient.

However for me, it takes too long (setting time) and it shows up as a repair or stands out unless the repair is out of sight.

I use "Lumiweld" but a word of warning - its melting point is close to that of aluminium and even closer to that of the backplate. The repair though is stronger than the original metal and with the lugs on a backplate - they will break somewhere else and not at the join.

It is not a repair material for the feint hearted and requires practise. A key element is that when the weld material has melted the part to which it is the be joined must be scratched with a sharp stainless steel point to break the oxidisation for the bond to form. You don't get much time to do this - take too long and the part will melt!

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In this instance all the lugs were bent so I straighten them gently in a vice.

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and keep checking that I have got the plate flat

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Then I set it as shown below - the mount I used is steel with a 7/64 drill rod. The weld does not stick to steel.

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Heat up the mount.

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Apply the Lumiweld and do the "scratching" - haven't got any pictures of this because I only have two hands.

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Followed by grinding and filing (no need to drill the hole)

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A good clean and it is ready for replating and polishing.

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Post  Cribbs74 Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:37 pm

Well shoot! Glad I kept that mounting lug I snapped off of my black widow metal backplate. Can Lumiweld join two pieces together?

When you say it doesn't stick to metal how does it adhere to the backplate? Excellent job on the repair!

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Post  ian1954 Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:19 pm

I should have made it more clear - it welds to aluminium - repairs carburettors for example - and aluminium alloys. To "stick" it has to be molten and you have to scratch through the aluminium oxide. Once the oxide layer is broken, it penetrates and welds.

To join two pieces they woul have to be "tinned" first. A thin coating of the weld applied to each piece befor bringing them together.

However, the melting point is close to aluminium - caution is required.
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Post  sdjjadk Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:01 pm

Nice work Ian. Very professional looking! Alumiweld is some good stuff. I've used it to make and repair automotive a/c lines before but I never knew it could be used to repair back plates.

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Post  Cribbs74 Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:18 pm

I didn't think the backplates were aluminum. They look more like cast steel or something. They sure are heavy.
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Post  ian1954 Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:35 pm

It is definitely an aluminum alloy. I can plate them with nickel, zinc, brass or copper but have to prepare them and use "zincate" to coat them first. This is an aluminium treatment. I will post some pictures when I do a batch of what they look like when the existing coating has been stripped off. You will see that they are a dull grey after stripping.

If a backplate has lost its coating through use and age, I find the clue is the white furry oxidation that forms inside. If they are plated with zinc, they can then be furher protected with a clear or yellow "passivate" - this is what results in the "silver" colour or the "brass/bronze" finish. I am still perfecting this though!

The one you see above has been nickel plated but needs a second coating.
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