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adding oil to fuels
what oil can i use to put in my 1 liter fuel as its all synthetic oil?
can i put in olive oil or do i need to get some castor oil?
also how much should i put in?
can i put in olive oil or do i need to get some castor oil?
also how much should i put in?
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Re: adding oil to fuels
nitros wrote:what oil can i use to put in my 1 liter fuel as its all synthetic oil?
can i put in olive oil or do i need to get some castor oil?
also how much should i put in?
You'll want to get some castor oil. I myself like to have 20% all castor but your engine should do fine with 10% castor. What is the current oil content % in your fuel? You can get castor oil from the drugstore (used as a laxative) and you can get castor oil in gopher/mole repellent ( http://lawn-and-garden.hardwarestore.com/79-504-animal-deterrents/sweeney-mole-and-gopher-repellent-525668.aspx ). Just make sure the bottle says 100% USP Castor Oil. You can also buy it online as grade bakers AA castor oil.
Last edited by Admin on Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:32 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Said bakers II when I meant bakers AA)
Re: adding oil to fuels
Klotz oil (which see) is sometimes recommended although I haven't tried it. The mixture ratio would depend on you fuel's nitro content and additives as well as the particular engine in which it is used and for what purpose. Anticipated engine longivity is also a consideration.
There are indeed several variables to consider.
SuperDave
There are indeed several variables to consider.
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Re: adding oil to fuels
you actually can use olive oil in your fuel i have done this in the past instead of 20% castor i used 30% olive and my engine was fine. but as cox did not recomend this i dont want to either as i dont want to kill your engine.
Klotz Benol is good to use.
Klotz Benol is good to use.
Re: adding oil to fuels
Here is a good 1/2A fuel guide: http://coxengines.ca/pages.php?pageid=5
Here is a fuel mixture calculator, Thanks to Bernie for the link: http://coxengines.ca/castor.xls
It is an excel file, so you can save it or just open it and use it. I recommend saving it, as it comes in handy when you don't want to buy pre-mixed fuel. Thjis is the best I've used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Glowplugboy-1-2A-Cox-049-R-C-Model-Airplane-Glow-Fuel-/290310955396?pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item4397e1a184
Others like Sig fuel.
Here is a fuel mixture calculator, Thanks to Bernie for the link: http://coxengines.ca/castor.xls
It is an excel file, so you can save it or just open it and use it. I recommend saving it, as it comes in handy when you don't want to buy pre-mixed fuel. Thjis is the best I've used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Glowplugboy-1-2A-Cox-049-R-C-Model-Airplane-Glow-Fuel-/290310955396?pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item4397e1a184
Others like Sig fuel.
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Re: adding oil to fuels
+ to what Rusty said. Unless you're flying competition, the Glowplugboy fuel is the best stuff.
Re: adding oil to fuels
Back in antiquity when I flew C/L stunt competition I used "Power Mist" fuel in the green can which performed very well but was EXPENSIVE (for the time). It smelled WONDERFUL!
For regular flying I used Testor's in the yellow can and at a more modest price but with not NEAR the performance.
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Re: adding oil to fuels
Admin wrote:nitros wrote:what oil can i use to put in my 1 liter fuel as its all synthetic oil?
can i put in olive oil or do i need to get some castor oil?
also how much should i put in?
You'll want to get some castor oil. I myself like to have 20% all castor but your engine should do fine with 10% castor. What is the current oil content % in your fuel? You can get castor oil from the drugstore (used as a laxative) and you can get castor oil in gopher/mole repellent ( http://lawn-and-garden.hardwarestore.com/79-504-animal-deterrents/sweeney-mole-and-gopher-repellent-525668.aspx ). Just make sure the bottle says 100% USP Castor Oil. You can also buy it online as grade bakers II castor oil.
now we were over this before! i would not recommend using the stuff out of the mole and gopher repellent bottle! you dont know if it is degummed or even the right grade! im even unsure about some of the stuff from the pharmacy as well.
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Re: adding oil to fuels
I wouldn't suggest it if it wasn't okay to use. It says clearly on the bottle that it is 100% USP Castor oil! USP is the same as grade bakers AA (I did say II earlier, I meant AA) only USP is inspected for medical use. Bakers AA is the stuff they use in most glow fuels.
Re: adding oil to fuels
this is the fuel that i have got http://www.rcworx.co.uk/hpi-powerfuel-25-1-litre-385-p.asp
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Re: adding oil to fuels
I am guessing you also live in the UK if so you should buy model technics GN 25 it is the best fuel in the country for cox engines I run it in all of mine.
Re: adding oil to fuels
do you know where can i get it for under £10 as i am short on money
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Re: adding oil to fuels
nitros wrote:do you know where can i get it for under £10 as i am short on money
yes hobbystores they sell it for £3.75 per 500ml that is enough for cox engines they also sell larger quantities but i buy it in 500ml bottles.
Re: adding oil to fuels
do you know anywhere online
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Re: adding oil to fuels
no but where abouts in the UK do you live there might be a supplier closer than you think.
Re: adding oil to fuels
i live in arnside on the cumbria, lancashire border
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Re: adding oil to fuels
the neariest ranch of hobby stroes i can find is in nottingham but maybe you should phone them and they might be able to send it to you.nitros wrote:i live in arnside on the cumbria, lancashire border
their number is
0115 9255 406
Re: adding oil to fuels
ok
but would it work to put oil in the my fuel
but would it work to put oil in the my fuel
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Re: adding oil to fuels
nitros wrote:ok
but would it work to put oil in the my fuel
yes you can add oil to your fuel i used to do that i recomend you add about 14% oil to the fuel
but there is some fuel with 16% nitro and a perfect amount of castor on ebay now.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Glow-fuel-Nitro-Model-Technics-GX-16-/170685070187?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item27bd9f7b6b
that fuel is fine if you are only running .020 and up but anything smaller will not run well on 16%
Re: adding oil to fuels
just to clarify by 14% do you mean putting in 140ml of castor oil into it
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Re: adding oil to fuels
no not really because 14% if 1.14 litres is not 140ml there is a simple conversion but i have forgotten it.nitros wrote:just to clarify by 14% do you mean putting in 140ml of castor oil into it
so to be safe add about 160ml.
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well 14% of 1.14L is 159.6ml
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