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Post  jetpack Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:34 am

I just was thinking how well these two would mate up. I have the kit but not the landing gear to compare. Any idea how well this would work? Looks like it might be a nice way to go? Just an idea I figured.

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Post  EXModelEngines Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:12 pm

Would probably be best to bend your own music/piano wire in my opinion. It would give a little more flexibility to tweak the height to your own specs.

If you need a piece, I believe I still have 1 ft lengths around here somewhere.

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Post  nitroairplane Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:11 pm

Isn't that landing gear for the pee wee .020 anyway?
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Post  jetpack Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:32 pm

Yes, the Cox landing gear is for a PeeWee engine. I am wondering how it would work with the Carl Goldberg Little Toot kit instead of going with what is kit designed. The Cox gear has wheel pants and is already fared in around the mount.
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Post  nitroairplane Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:02 am

The best way to find out is to try!
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Post  SuperDave Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:31 pm

I taught several kids to fly C/L back in the sixties with Goldberg "Lil' Toots" mated to Cox Black Widow's. A zippy little performer!

The LG shown seems like it would be fine providing that it's not too heavy..

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Post  jetpack Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:01 am

I was just wondering if it would be a good way to cheat seeing it has scale outlines, wheel pants...

They aren't much money to buy one just to see how it would fit up. Faring them in with some balsa wouldn't be hard.
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Post  gcb Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:23 am

Jetpack,
It might be just as easy to install balsa fairings and pants on the wire landing gear.

BTW, I looked at the pictures you have in the photo gallery...GREAT PICS! Your Space Bug and Thermal Hopper are MUCH shinier than mine. Are those Cox plastic props?
Also likes the ducted fan plans. Didn't see the Berkeley Saab Draken, which was my favorite. Your fan looked much better than I remember the kit ones.

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Post  SuperDave Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:41 pm

JP:

As I'm building this very plane as I write I have the correct formed wire landing gear for the "Toot". I could send you a tracing if that would be helpful. Lemme know if I can help. Since I haven't installed it yet on the plane I'll wait to hear from you by PM.

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Post  jetpack Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:07 pm

gcb wrote: Are those Cox plastic props?
Those are K-Sun props that I've sanded and polished. Very brittle plastic and if your not careful, splinters will show up. Started to happen to me on one of them. I used Micro-Mesh polishing pads from my plastic modelling box and then Novus plastic polish. Guitar polish works well on hard plastic like this also.

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gcb wrote: Also likes the ducted fan plans. Didn't see the Berkeley Saab Draken, which was my favorite. Your fan looked much better than I remember the kit ones.George

Berkeley has four ducted fan kits but the Draken isn't one of them it might be a Vernon? I know they were big in the UK for ducted fan kits. I have one of their plastic fans. It's for an A size engine however. The PeeWee is used in only one of the four kits, the rest use a larger blade which I have extras for so I don't have to rob from the kit to copy it. I sanded the stamping then gave it a light polish. It's a very soft aluminum and couldn't see using it safely. The Berkeley package label even warns to change it after 2 hours of use.

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Dave, thanks for the offer but I have the kit for reference for everything when I go to build the ones I intend to fly so I can trace that if need be. It's great to hear your building one. It's one of my favorite ones in the series. I launched my buddy's .020 back in the day but never flew it. That one carried its own shorter lines. Are you going for the traditional Black Widow power? Cool
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Post  SuperDave Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:40 pm

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Yes I will be using the very same BW for power in fact; my son crashed it on asphalt when he was in college like maybe 25 years ago. The "Toot" was destroyed but it's "chin" saved the Cox from damage. It's been carefully preserved since then.
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Post  nitroairplane Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:38 am

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gcb wrote: Are those Cox plastic props?
Those are K-Sun props that I've sanded and polished. Very brittle plastic and if your not careful, splinters will show up. Started to happen to me on one of them. I used Micro-Mesh polishing pads from my plastic modelling box and then Novus plastic polish. Guitar polish works well on hard plastic like this also.

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gcb wrote: Also likes the ducted fan plans. Didn't see the Berkeley Saab Draken, which was my favorite. Your fan looked much better than I remember the kit ones.George

Yes Veron did have some little DF kits and I think they also made some little fans for the pee wee .020 they pop up on UK eBay every know and then never had the chance to snap one up though Sad

Berkeley has four ducted fan kits but the Draken isn't one of them it might be a Vernon? I know they were big in the UK for ducted fan kits. I have one of their plastic fans. It's for an A size engine however. The PeeWee is used in only one of the four kits, the rest use a larger blade which I have extras for so I don't have to rob from the kit to copy it. I sanded the stamping then gave it a light polish. It's a very soft aluminum and couldn't see using it safely. The Berkeley package label even warns to change it after 2 hours of use.

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Dave, thanks for the offer but I have the kit for reference for everything when I go to build the ones I intend to fly so I can trace that if need be. It's great to hear your building one. It's one of my favorite ones in the series. I launched my buddy's .020 back in the day but never flew it. That one carried its own shorter lines. Are you going for the traditional Black Widow power? Cool
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Post  SuperDave Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:22 pm

JP:

I've quite bit of experience with "Toot's" and can tell you with PeeWee .020 power they would less than a stellar performer in the CL circle.

It really depends on how much you want to "play". All of my "Toot's" have had BW .049's for power and have been quite agile in the circle. If the BW is too much to handle at first you can always slow it down by running it rich.
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